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#2364639 - Today at 04:21 PM Is this now real enough?
Philip_Johnston Online   content
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Registered: 06/30/11
Posts: 12
The question is not whether the sound is real on the video below - it's whether it would fool 99.5% of the population:

YouTube Video of performance

What you're listening to is Garritan CFX sample library running on an iMac, using a Yamaha Avant Grand N3 as the midi controller. (That's the "piano" you can see in the shot). The combination of the the AG's excellent grand piano action and Garritan's astonishing sample library makes for a heck of a recording instrument...albeit a very expensive one.

I sold my Yamaha 6 foot acoustic grand to get this setup. Thoughts? Was I crazy?

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#2364653 - 44 minutes 22 seconds ago Re: Is this now real enough? [Re: Philip_Johnston]
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Registered: 09/24/09
Posts: 3902
Loc: North Carolina
Hard to tell ... not much pedal, and so not much resonance. But it sounds quite good.

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#2364657 - 38 minutes 36 seconds ago Re: Is this now real enough? [Re: Philip_Johnston]
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Registered: 11/30/04
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Loc: Ann Arbor, MI
Originally Posted By: Philip_Johnston
The question is not whether the sound is real on the video below - it's whether it would fool 99.5% of the population:

YouTube Video of performance

Count me among the 99.5%. Sure had me fooled! It sounds amazing and your playing is awesome...as one would expect from the guy who launched the Practice Revolution. smile

The question I have for you is how does it feel to play this...like a 9ft grand?
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"Playing the piano is my greatest joy...period."......JP

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#2364658 - 36 minutes 40 seconds ago Re: Is this now real enough? [Re: Philip_Johnston]
LFYM Online   content
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Registered: 11/25/14
Posts: 13
Impressive quality, Philip.

How are you liking the Garritan CFX so far? Up to your expectations?

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#2364659 - 32 minutes 41 seconds ago Re: Is this now real enough? [Re: Philip_Johnston]
pmh Online   content
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Registered: 04/12/14
Posts: 22
Loc: South Coast UK
Hello Phillip, it sounds stunning to me. Superb playing. I was going green with envy. Wish I could play like that and afford that combination. Congratulations,

Paul H

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#2364660 - 28 minutes 59 seconds ago Re: Is this now real enough? [Re: Philip_Johnston]
Thomas B Online   content
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Registered: 02/02/13
Posts: 46
Hi Philip,

really great shot and impressive playing :-)

I think recordings done by a good player with one of the top notch libraries will fool at least the 99.5% of listeners that you stated or even more. In general, the weaknesses (e.g. limited dynamics, limited complexity in the resonance) of the current libraries could be attributed to the player, recording, post-processing or are really hard to spot while listening to a normal piece of music...

Now, when it comes to playing it's totally different to me. While I enjoy playing my virtual piano through headphones using my upright as a controller, it does not come close to the tonal live experience of the real thing. Therefore, I totally understand that you sold the Yamaha grand, but you must have a F308, 290 Imperial or at least some baby grand that you kept, right ;-)?

Thomas

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#2364661 - 22 minutes 13 seconds ago Re: Is this now real enough? [Re: Philip_Johnston]
Pete14 Online   content
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Registered: 06/12/13
Posts: 292
Phenomenal.

How does the Garritan CFX sound (fidelity wise) over the on-board speakers?

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#2364662 - 21 minutes 25 seconds ago Re: Is this now real enough? [Re: Philip_Johnston]
PianoManChuck Offline
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Registered: 10/05/12
Posts: 123
Loc: Los Angeles, California
What MacMacMac said (not much pedal, so not much resonance). I would like to have heard more pedal, especially since the CFX virtual piano seems to be lacking in half-pedal capability. Other than that, yes, this will definitely fool the majority of listeners!

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#2364668 - 5 minutes 48 seconds ago Re: Is this now real enough? [Re: Philip_Johnston]
sullivang Online   blank
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Registered: 07/05/09
Posts: 2238
Loc: Sydney, Australia
Definitely fools me, but I still don't find the CFX sound to be exciting - but I can say the same for many many real piano recordings. I don't know, and don't care, whether this RD800 demo sounds more authentic than the CFX, but it just sounds sexy: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yPTLR2zr7rk (just listen for a few seconds starting at 1:11).

Greg.

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