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CA67


FINALLY!!!!!!!!!!

Btw, KawaiUS has not informed two Dealers in my area. TeeHee ...

I just read the CA97 user manual. I can't think of anything negative to say about it. Looking forward to read what others think.

Ian

I assume the CA-67 does not have the "sound board" (even if it is little more than a gimmick), since they did not mention it in the video? Seems like the 2 pianos are nearly identical, as far as piano sounds/tweaking, speakers, and keyboard?

I read the specifications of the CA97 on the KAWAI website , but never understood what the Grand Feel II differs from the Grand Feel action. All description applies also for Grand Feel.

I'm curious how that sound board is driven. I would expect them to use exciters instead of speakers to make that sound board vibrate similar to how a piano bridge might.

I believe you're right.
The CA65 had 60 sounds and 100 watt speaker system and the
and CA95 had 80 sounds and the 135 watt speaker/soundboard system.

The CA67 has listed as 6 speaker system instead of 4 on the CA65.
I can't find the Wattage listed. The european site has the specs listed
for the CA97 on both the CA67 and CA97.

They look nice. Wonder when they will be available in the USA.

The german site is ok, the UK has this error. so you have to look on german

Correct, although the speaker system has been upgraded compared to the previous generation CA65.



Yes, the keyboard action and sound engine specifications are the same, however there are more sounds on the CA97 (80 vs 60). The soundboard speaker system and single-piece cabinet are the main differences.

Kind regards,
James
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As I wrote earlier I have read the CA97 user manual. Just go to the Kawai website and you can download it. The specifications for both pianos are there.

Ian

Hi James, could you confirm us that the upgrade of the Grand feel II is the counter weight system? Is the GF2 same length of GF1 by the way? About sound is the same Harmonic Imaging XL same sample size?
Thank you in advance for your kind contribution.

I think the biggest difference is the "ebony feel" black keys. I'm pretty sure the GF already has graded hammers and counterweights - although I guess they may have tweaked the weighting a bit.

As mentioned in the 'New Kawai CA series?' thread, the GFII action offers the following improvements over GF:

- Ebony Touch black key surfaces
- More authentic key width and edge camber for black keys (based on SK-EX specification)
- Richer colour for black keys
- Moisture absorbency for black keys
- Revised hammer shape and weight (optimised centre of gravity, improves dynamic load)
- Counterweights on all 88 keys, graded from bass to treble
- Improved note-on timing, with ability to trigger notes from the let-off point



Yes, GFII key length and key pivot length is the same as GF.



The CA97/CA67 'EX Concert' sound is the same as the CA95/CA65 'Concert Grand' sound, and the 'SK-EX Concert' and 'SK-5 Grand' are brand new. All three sound sets are HI-XL 88-key sampled.

I hope this answers your queries.

Cheers,
James
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Overall these pianos sound quite impressive. I'd love to test out the new Shigeru samples and key action in person - even more so as an owner of an unsampled Shigeru...

PS. As a member of Club Red I'd love to see a nice Shigeru sample in the Nord Piano Library as well. Apologies for a silly question, but: any chance to set up a cooperation?

I know - but on the (German) Kawai website it states that the tweeters on the CA-97 are 5cm as opposed to the 1.4cm tweeters of the CA-95. In the manual however both specifications are the same (1.4cm), so I guess the website is wrong. From the website CA-97 specs:

"Resonanzboden System plus 4 x 7cm Top Speaker und 2 x 5cm Kalottenhochtöner"

That's why I asked. To sum it up , the CA-97 has introduced :

- some improvements over the GF keybed,
- two brand new AP piano sample sets,
- ditched a few very old piano sets from the earliest Kawai's (?) ,
- added some 'crossover' headphone functionality
- introduced undamped string resonance and cabinet resonance
- easier VT navigation and setup and iOS app support

I am very curious to the length of the new sample sets ; it's HI-XL, but does that mean the samples are of equal length to the samples of the concert grand in the CA-95 or perhaps longer ?

And will the new resonance effects fix some string resonance artifacts that are present in the previous series (although hardly noticeable!). And will these resonance give the release stage of the sound a more natural / dynamic decay ? I mean - will these effects 'mask' the looping stage of the sound as a by-effect ?

The enhanced GF , headphone effects and new samples alone won't make me exchange my 95 for a 97 yet, but if the added resonance effects provide for a less static sustain phase of the new and existing samples , that might change...

Cherio, J

Sorry but it was an error on the page (is corrected now)...Official Statement of KAWAI > The Hardware base is the same CA95 and CA97 (loudspeakers).

The cabinet and undampend string resonance was always part of the HI XL harmonic Imaging.

Only this two effects can now be adjusted in the new menu, because some People don't liked it.

If I may correct you, 'Harmonic Imaging' relates to the playback and interpolation of samples throughout the dynamic range. It is not related to the modelled resonances.



This is incorrect. 'Cabinet Resonance' and 'Undamped String Resonance' are new modelled resonances, accessible and adjustable via the instrument's Virtual Technician feature.

Kind regards,
James
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Ah great and thx for clearifying. Really looking forward > Will get mine in 4 weeks :-).

Next week next week NEXT WEEK !!!! YEAHH !!

Galuwen, can you clarify for me which one you ordered and can you share your cost delivered?
Thanks!
And yay for you!. Next week, YEAH!