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#2377236 - 01/23/15 05:04 PM Advice on piano Kawai - Cn-35 or Ca-15
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Hi, I would love some of your guys advice on which one of those two pianos to get, or another one in a similiar price range. I should mention that I do not really care about extra sounds and similiar stuff and are more looking for the most realistic piano playing experience.

Best regards
Johan



I wasn't sure where to place the thread, hopefully this is OK...


Edited by Johan.s (01/23/15 05:08 PM)

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#2377307 - 01/23/15 07:41 PM Re: Advice on piano Kawai - Cn-35 or Ca-15 [Re: Johan.s]
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Hello Johan, welcome to the forum.

Originally Posted By: Johan.s
I do not really care about extra sounds and similiar stuff and are more looking for the most realistic piano playing experience.


In this case, the CA15 is the more suitable instrument for you.

Kind regards,
James
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#2377426 - Yesterday at 03:22 AM Re: Advice on piano Kawai - Cn-35 or Ca-15 [Re: Kawai James]
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Thank you for the reply James, I was expecting that reply actually considering that the ca-15s key action should be better, from what I've read anyway. I wanted to ask though since I know that the keyaction in the cn-35 is very new and I haven't really seen any reviews on the piano. Also other things like the sound plays a part of course, but honestly it is the keyaction that is the most important thing for me. Once again thanks a lot for the help James, I truly appreciate it.

Best regards
Johan


Edited by Johan.s (Yesterday at 03:26 AM)

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#2377427 - Yesterday at 03:30 AM Re: Advice on piano Kawai - Cn-35 or Ca-15 [Re: Johan.s]
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James is right. In your situation the CA 15 is the better choice. I am playing the same key action in the VPC 1 and it is fairly similar to my grand. In Kawai's stable, only the GF actions come even closer.

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#2377431 - Yesterday at 04:45 AM Re: Advice on piano Kawai - Cn-35 or Ca-15 [Re: Johan.s]
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I considered the CA-15, however, being able to record to USB is a key feature for me.

In any case, if you have the chance at all, see that you can find a place to play a little on both. There is a difference, if from the pivot point alone.
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#2377440 - Yesterday at 06:24 AM Re: Advice on piano Kawai - Cn-35 or Ca-15 [Re: Hendrik42]
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Thank you for the reply, unfortunately in my current situation I do not have the opportunity to try them out. Well it's hardly surprising when you live in the northern part of sweden...

Best regards
Johan

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#2377491 - Yesterday at 10:43 AM Re: Advice on piano Kawai - Cn-35 or Ca-15 [Re: Johan.s]
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Loc: Bangalore, India
Hej Johan,

I have recently played on the CN25 which have the same key action as the CN35, and also tried the CA15 at the same time. The CA15 key action is far superior, and have a very nice touch and weight due to the wooden keys. I found the CN25 keys wobbly and too lightweight, (of course it's about personal preference, I like more resistance).

Since the Yamaha CLP-535 sells for the same price as the CA15 in Sweden, you should check it out. It is a newly released model (2014) and has a good piano samplings and also USB recording options.

Being from north Sweden myself I know it is difficult to find piano dealers with a wide selection of models on display. But there is a few in Sundsvall and Östersund that I can think of atleast.

All the best!

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#2377494 - Yesterday at 10:56 AM Re: Advice on piano Kawai - Cn-35 or Ca-15 [Re: Maharaja]
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If I had to recommend a piano in this price range to friend or family it would be the CLP535.
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#2377567 - Yesterday at 01:58 PM Re: Advice on piano Kawai - Cn-35 or Ca-15 [Re: leafhound]
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Registered: 01/23/15
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Thank you for the reply, any particular reason for that?

Best regards
Johan

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#2377600 - Yesterday at 02:58 PM Re: Advice on piano Kawai - Cn-35 or Ca-15 [Re: Maharaja]
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Hey/hej, interesting to hear your thoughts on the keyactions, and I have to agree with a little bit more resistance being better. I will certainly check out the Yamaha piano. Have you tried it? if so, how does it compare to the Kawai?

Also, I actually went to some pianodealers in Östersund but they didn't really have that much to showcase and generally not a lot of pianos in this price range. But as I said earlier, it's hardly surprising I suppose.

Thank you for the reply, helps a ton!

Best regards
Johan


Edited by Johan.s (Yesterday at 03:00 PM)

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#2377670 - Yesterday at 05:06 PM Re: Advice on piano Kawai - Cn-35 or Ca-15 [Re: Johan.s]
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Loc: Bangalore, India
I have tried the Yamaha CLP-545 which is the model above the 535, with the difference of having wooden keys (whites only)and better speakers etc. I am waiting for the Yahama dealer to get the 535 to try it out, since I am also in the progress of buying a new digital piano.

I liked the key action in both the 545 and CA15, but I felt the latter had a slightly better feel where all keys are wooden. But when it came to sound and sampling the 545 was superior, Yamaha's piano sampling of the Bösendorfer and CFX grands are much more to my liking, the Kawai felt a bit thin and too sqeaky in the higher register. It has been said by several people that the 535 has a very similar feel in key action to the 545, but I am yet to try it.

Something that made me rule out the CA15 was that it is a bit older than the 535/545 and doesn't have a USB recording option (which you can come around through MIDI). And the sound and sampling were not according to my taste. It is very subjective and personal anyhow.

Too bad there were no proper models for display in Östersund, I bought my first digital piano there some 6 years ago at 4sound. I hope you can find some dealer where you can try it out, since it can make it or break it for you when it comes to the real feel and experience.

All the best!

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#2377853 - Today at 05:59 AM Re: Advice on piano Kawai - Cn-35 or Ca-15 [Re: Maharaja]
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Registered: 01/23/15
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Thanks again for this invaluable information, honestly I would most likely be happy with either one but it really sucks that I haven't got the chance to try them out. Right now I'm not really sure what do to, which one to pick. Coin toss perhaps? wink

I guess I'll try to read up some more and then try to make a decision.

Best regards
Johan


Edited by Johan.s (Today at 06:01 AM)

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#2377856 - 54 minutes 7 seconds ago Re: Advice on piano Kawai - Cn-35 or Ca-15 [Re: Johan.s]
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Registered: 01/03/15
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Loc: Bangalore, India
Yes first hand experience is important, it's quite a big investment after all. I almost overlooked that myself in the rush of getting something to play on. But I have taken a more slow approach now, since my dealer here finally has ordered the model I am considering, the CLP-535. Maybe some of your nearby dealers can do the same?

I have sent you a PM Johan.s.

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