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#239392 - 02/05/09 10:44 AM See New Post About Cruise (this one is locked)
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Choose A Cruise!



We have been talking about a Piano Forums Piano Cruise off and on for years, without actually getting anywhere.

Now we have an agent who is working hard to help us put together the first real cruise.

Bill will be handling all the arrangements for us, which means he will help everyone with the booking, travel arrangements, etc.

(Bill Potuchek, CTA, ACC
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Our criteria includes needing access to pianos we can play, preferably acoustic pianos.

We decided the first PWPF Cruise should be no more than 7 nights, and it should sail from Florida (so we won't need International flights the first time).

Bill (our travel agent) has come up with a few suggested cruises to choose from.

Our itinerary will include time to get together as a group, and plenty of "free time" to do your own thing. If we have enough people sign up I will try to entice some of our "professional" pianist to join us (and perform).

The First Cruise will be in early 2010

Pricing will depend somewhat on how many people are in our group. We will get the best deal we can for everyone.

Keep in mind, "days at sea" will be the time we get together to make music.

Please See This Important UPDATE! Piano Cruise UPDATE!





Edited by Piano World (03/03/09 09:48 PM)
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#239393 - 02/05/09 01:10 PM Re: 1st Annual PWPF Piano Cruise - Now With DETAILS
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Been waiting for this AND / OR a tour of European Piano Factories / Concerts!

Can you add preference of dates? I'd prefer winter and March, not April.

Shoot - my preference of #3 is the least voted on!

I also think we should know of port of call time visiting, if he can add that info.

And approx cost of such an event!

Tuners/techs might really be welcome as well as performers!

Thanks Frank! (BTW leaving from Fl doesn't have anything to do with that you LIVE there does it?)

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#239394 - 02/05/09 01:15 PM Re: 1st Annual PWPF Piano Cruise - Now With DETAILS
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Frank,

How exciting! I know this is a lot of work and I appreciate that you are doing it.

One thing to consider - March and April are very busy months for church musicians; if the cruise could happen after Easter/Passover more folks might be able to go. \:\)
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#239395 - 02/05/09 01:23 PM Re: 1st Annual PWPF Piano Cruise - Now With DETAILS
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I am sure you all will have a great time.

I went to sea for 24 years (which wasn't half long enough...) and would only be comfortable as a crew member, not a passenger.
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#239396 - 02/05/09 01:25 PM Re: 1st Annual PWPF Piano Cruise - Now With DETAILS
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I don't envy Frank the task of picking an itinerary and, especially, dates that would accommodate everybody. I also wonder if it might not be better to restrict voting to those people who express a meaningful likelihood in attending. I voted, but given the proposed dates I would not be able to go along. So maybe it shouldn't matter what itinerary I like. \:D
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#239397 - 02/05/09 02:13 PM Re: 1st Annual PWPF Piano Cruise - Now With DETAILS
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Monica,

Don't you have spring break after Easter?
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#239398 - 02/05/09 02:22 PM Re: 1st Annual PWPF Piano Cruise - Now With DETAILS
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 Quote:
Originally posted by lilylady:
Been waiting for this AND / OR a tour of European Piano Factories / Concerts!

Can you add preference of dates? I'd prefer winter and March, not April.

Shoot - my preference of #3 is the least voted on!

I also think we should know of port of call time visiting, if he can add that info.

And approx cost of such an event!

Tuners/techs might really be welcome as well as performers!

Thanks Frank! (BTW leaving from Fl doesn't have anything to do with that you LIVE there does it?)

:p [/b]
If our first cruise goes well (and I suspect it will) we will certainly look toward putting together a Europeon cruise/tour to include piano factories and composer's homes.

"(BTW leaving from Fl doesn't have anything to do with that you LIVE there does it?)"
Of course not :-) Florida happens to be the cruise capital of the U.S., it's just a coincidence that I live about 20 minutes from port.

I'll let Bill handle the other questions.
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#239399 - 02/05/09 02:32 PM Re: 1st Annual PWPF Piano Cruise - Now With DETAILS
Monica K. Offline

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 Quote:
Originally posted by whippen boy:
Monica,

Don't you have spring break after Easter? [/b]
It's usually spring break for us before Easter. The real problem is that the university administration in its infinite wisdom (VERY heavy sarcasm here) always chooses dates that don't coincide with the public school spring breaks. After all, it's not like university faculty would actually like to be able to go on vacation with their children, would they? (even heavier sarcasm).
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#239400 - 02/05/09 03:01 PM Re: 1st Annual PWPF Piano Cruise - Now With DETAILS
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I just did the Jamaica, Cayman, Cozumel itinerary last year on Freedom of the Seas. Those ships are ENORMOUS. My kids would like nothing better than to get back on one of these boats. This may be a little early to mention, but when they offer to check you through to your airline for $20/person, DO NOT HESITATE. All of the cruise lines disembark their passengers at the same time. There is nothing like waiting in line with 10,000 of your closest friends at the airport.

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#239401 - 02/05/09 09:09 PM Re: 1st Annual PWPF Piano Cruise - Now With DETAILS
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we will certainly look toward putting together a Europeon cruise/tour to include piano factories and composer's homes.
that would be so wonderful! we could tour the val di fiemme, visit the brahmshaus in baden baden, not to mention all the wonderful factories: sauter, grotrian, steingraeber, etc. etc. etc.
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#239402 - 02/06/09 02:52 PM Re: 1st Annual PWPF Piano Cruise - Now With DETAILS
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#239403 - 02/06/09 07:27 PM Re: 1st Annual PWPF Piano Cruise - Now With DETAILS
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Is this going to be a BYOP (Bring your own piano) cruise. Another future thought would be a river trip trough Germany stopping at some piano factories.

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#239404 - 02/06/09 07:30 PM Re: 1st Annual PWPF Piano Cruise - Now With DETAILS
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Originally posted by tonyf:
Is this going to be a BYOP (Bring your own piano) cruise. Another future thought would be a river trip trough Germany stopping at some piano factories. [/b]
According to Bill (our travel agent) the ships he suggested have acoustic pianos, and he's verified we will have access to them.

I'd like to use our first cruise as a stepping stone toward future cruises. If we get enough people to join us, we can create some more elaborate cruises in the future.
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#239405 - 02/07/09 02:35 PM Re: 1st Annual PWPF Piano Cruise - Now With DETAILS
Carol I. Offline
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In December we were on one of the ships that you're considering - the Celebrity Summit. I counted five Yamaha grands on board, all about 5'8" I would guess.

I played one of them several times. It was in pretty good condition - not perfect, but better than many hotel pianos! It was in a piano bar and was the only piano that I saw being played while we were on the ship. Two or three of the others, which had player systems, were always locked.

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#239406 - 02/07/09 06:21 PM Re: 1st Annual PWPF Piano Cruise - Now With DETAILS
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What kind of cost would be expected on this?
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#239407 - 02/08/09 08:54 PM Re: 1st Annual PWPF Piano Cruise - Now With DETAILS
Jerry Groot RPT Offline
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A cruise is a marvelous luxury.

I just wonder how some of you people might get along after reading some of these threads! Yipes! MAN OVER BOARD! Or, woman! \:D

I think I'll even plan on going but hiding! hehehe. Especially from Diane! Great idea though!
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#239408 - 02/09/09 11:09 AM Re: 1st Annual PWPF Piano Cruise - Now With DETAILS
Bill Potuchek Offline
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Thank you and keep the votes coming in. To answer some of your questions:

5 night Celebrity visits Ocho Rios, Jamaica and Grand Cayman with 2 nights at sea. A short cruise but a good value for those who do not have to fly in. If flying in to Florida may be too short.

7 night Celebrity Solstice: Sailed on the pre inaugural and this ship is really "class". Due to popularity there may be less "perks" for the group but definitely a great ship. Ports are Sn Juan, St. Kitts, St. Maarten with three days at sea.

Royal Caribbean 7 night Liberty: Sailed on this one as well as the new Independence (see 6 night choice). If travelling with families this or the Independence are the way to go. In my opinion next to Disney, the best family cruise line. A large ship with more activities than you can imagine. San Juan, St. Thomas, and St. Maarten with 3 days at sea.

Royal Caribbean Independence of the Seas - 6 night. Typical western Caribbean with Cozumel, Grand Cayman, and Montego Bay, Jamaica. and 2 days at sea.

Don't let the ports necessarily influence your choice. All ships are great and the voting continues to be close, with about one more week to go.

Regarding dates it will more than likely be in March and not conflict with Easter Holidays or Holy Week. Will look for best value on the ship selected and perks allowed. It looks like Royal Caribbean will give better perks but don't let that influence your decision.

It will be fun and I look forward to getting to know all of you better. For those who asked yes Frank will be there and with a group I always sail to coordinate any events on board, questions on shore excursions, and heaven forbid, problem which may arise.
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#239409 - 02/09/09 11:12 AM Re: 1st Annual PWPF Piano Cruise - Now With DETAILS
Strings & Wood Offline


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I have been on (3) cruises and enjoyed them all- although it has been a while since the last one. The Germany trip/factory tour has been on my mind for some time now. I definitely want to do that one. I suspect as a group we could command the red carpet tour?
I hear Germany is beautiful in the fall and something about an Oktoberfest?
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#239410 - 02/09/09 09:53 PM Re: 1st Annual PWPF Piano Cruise - Now With DETAILS
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About four hours ago I got back home after a ten day Panama Canal cruise,aboard RCCL's Jewel of the Seas.It was my twenty seventh cruise and the ninth with RCCL. They have become my favorite.
If any one wants to ask me any thing about cruising I would be happy to respond. I think cruising is a wonderful vacation.I also agree with Frank that Florida is the best place to sail from.

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#239411 - 02/09/09 10:39 PM Re: 1st Annual PWPF Piano Cruise - Now With DETAILS
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i am so a cruise girl
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#239412 - 02/11/09 12:07 PM Re: 1st Annual PWPF Piano Cruise - Now With DETAILS
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I have been looking at the best dates for value and perks for each of the four cruises and there has been some itinerary changes so I wanted to get you input if you feel you might want to sail with us.

Independence of the Seas - 6 night - Feb 28 is best availability date. The ports are now Berlize, Costa Maya Mexico, and Cozumel with two days at sea. Pricing including taxes range from $ 849 for inside to $ 1799 for suite with a great value of $ 1199 for balcony (which I ofren recommend). If you plan to travel with children let me know as RCCL has the best childrens program.

Liberty of the Seas - March 14 is the best available date. Best itinerary for first time western carribean sailing experience with the private island, Jamaica, Grand Cayman and Cozumel with two days at sea. Pricing about $ 100 per person more than Independence but you get an additional day.

Celebrity Century - Is a short 5 night sailing which may lead to more "partying". Now ports in Key West and Grand Cayman with 2 days at sea. A relatively short sailing if you are flying to Florida to board. Pricing ranges from about $ 600 for inside to $ 1100 for suites. Children may become bored if sailing. March 1 is the best value date.

Celebrity Solstice - Newest of Celebrity ships and quite luxurios with spectacular shows. Ports in San Juan, St. Maarten, Tortola and private island in Haita with 2 days at sea. An upscale experience for a value price. After sailing on it in November I held space (which can be cancelled if this ship is not selected). Pricing is lower than you can find on the March 7 sailing. Again Celebrity is not as well recommended for families in comparision to RCCL. If this ship is selected we are limited to 24 cabins as group space has "sold out".

On all sailings a deposit of $ 250 per person is required by May 1st or as long as cabins last. Final day for "voting" is this Saturday, February 14th. Details should be available on this site by February 22nd.

is
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#239413 - 02/11/09 01:19 PM Re: 1st Annual PWPF Piano Cruise - Now With DETAILS
Bill Potuchek Offline
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Thank you Frank for noticing my typo. Century suites from $ 1100. $ 110 would have been some kind of a deal.
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#239414 - 02/11/09 04:14 PM Re: 1st Annual PWPF Piano Cruise - Now With DETAILS
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I have been on two cruises. The first was with Princess. It toured the carribean (7 nights). It was fine.

The most recent cruise was on the Celebrity Summit. It was awful-to-poor. (14 nights from Spain to Puerto Rico).

I suggest avoiding the Celebrity. Princess has been great (and people that I know who have sailed both have had a very recent cruise on Princess and still like it a lot).

Both ships had several and more grand pianos. One of the Celebrity pianos was badly out of tune. Another was pretty good. Every piano that I saw on both ships were Yamaha.

I suggest adding workshops where knowledgeable instructors could lead sessions (blues, jazz, theory, etc.).
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#239415 - 02/11/09 04:51 PM Re: 1st Annual PWPF Piano Cruise - Now With DETAILS
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 Quote:
Originally posted by Hop:
I have been on two cruises. The first was with Princess. It toured the carribean (7 nights). It was fine.

The most recent cruise was on the Celebrity Summit. It was awful-to-poor. (14 nights from Spain to Puerto Rico).

I suggest avoiding the Celebrity. Princess has been great (and people that I know who have sailed both have had a very recent cruise on Princess and still like it a lot).

Both ships had several and more grand pianos. One of the Celebrity pianos was badly out of tune. Another was pretty good. Every piano that I saw on both ships were Yamaha.

I suggest adding workshops where knowledgeable instructors could lead sessions (blues, jazz, theory, etc.). [/b]
Thanks for the feedback Hop,

I would love to add workshops, but that would depend on who is joining us.
If we get enough people to sign up, I can work on "incentives" for some of the pros.

Otherwise, you may have to settle for listening to my rock arrangement of Moonlight Sonata :-)
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#239416 - 02/11/09 05:58 PM Re: 1st Annual PWPF Piano Cruise - Now With DETAILS
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...which is well worth the price...
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#239417 - 02/12/09 06:58 AM Re: 1st Annual PWPF Piano Cruise - Now With DETAILS
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Do you mean Belize instead of Berlize?
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#239418 - 02/12/09 10:23 AM Re: 1st Annual PWPF Piano Cruise - Now With DETAILS
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I AM SO WITH YOU ON THAT MONICA!

 Quote:
Originally posted by Monica K.:
 Quote:
Originally posted by whippen boy:
Monica,

Don't you have spring break after Easter? [/b]
It's usually spring break for us before Easter. The real problem is that the university administration in its infinite wisdom (VERY heavy sarcasm here) always chooses dates that don't coincide with the public school spring breaks. After all, it's not like university faculty would actually like to be able to go on vacation with their children, would they? (even heavier sarcasm). [/b]
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#239419 - 02/12/09 11:32 AM Re: 1st Annual PWPF Piano Cruise - Now With DETAILS
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Yes Belize. Goes to show that you all read well. Hopefully many of you will elect to join us. Hope to have a ship and voyage selected by next week, keep the comments and votes coming in. Summit and Century are part of the "older" class of ships (although only a few years old) which may make comment above valid. Also shorter cruises tend to have the older ships. We are trying to find the cruises and cruise lines which will provide us with the most opportunities to meet and have fun at the same time.
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#239420 - 02/12/09 02:42 PM Re: 1st Annual PWPF Piano Cruise - Now With DETAILS
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I have been on five cruises, four with Royal Caribbean (East and West Caribbean and two to Alaska) and one short re-positionig cruise with Holland America.

I have done the Royal Caribbean cruise to the Private Island, Jamaica, Grand Cayman and Cozumel stops and enjoyed it immensely.

I have found RCCL to be first rate in all categories that one would expect to find on a cruise ship.

The food was excellent, the activities and entertainment were fabulous and the accomodations and service were second to none.

I have done a 5, 7, 10 and 14 day and found the 10 day for me was optimum.

I would say that a 7 day cruise should be a minimum. Anything less and I found that it seemed that you just get settled in and it's time to leave.
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#239421 - 02/12/09 08:52 PM Re: 1st Annual PWPF Piano Cruise - Now With DETAILS
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As for workshops, we often have posts here from Bradley Sowash, Neil Miller, and others.

We could always "invite" people like Mark Harrison or Tim Richards, or other people often mentioned on this forum.

Perhaps posters know of others.
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