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Originally Posted by dire tonic
Most of us know that the longer key is preferable but we might wonder if the average action weight in GF(2) would be generally lighter than the VPC1 as seems to be the case with GF(1). That wouldn't be universally desirable.

Real Pianos can have (and they are definitely have) long key pivots, but in the same time they can vary: some have lighter actions, the others – heavier. So these parameters are not directly linked. But I definitely prefer more heavy actions, especially for practicing.

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Hello David,

To answer your question:

Originally Posted by David Izquierdo
can I EFFECTIVELY use the LINE inputs to use the internal speakers with Pianoteq, Galaxy etc..?


Yes, connecting the the audio output from your computer to the CA's LINE IN jack, then enabling the 'Local Off' setting will allow the sound triggered by the Kawai keyboard to be heard through the instrument's speakers.

Originally Posted by David Izquierdo
I also agree on 9190' comment as per the proposed "VPC2", IMO would be a very demanded device.


Yes, I agree. But there are no plans for such a product at this time.

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9190, thank you for your explanation.

Originally Posted by 9190
So now you see why I would prefer separate MIDI-controller with GF(2) action + MP7, than only MP11.


Yes, I see. In which case, the MP7+VPC1 is indeed a very good combination for you.

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Originally Posted by Kawai James
Hello David,

To answer your question:

Originally Posted by David Izquierdo
can I EFFECTIVELY use the LINE inputs to use the internal speakers with Pianoteq, Galaxy etc..?


Yes, connecting the the audio output from your computer to the CA's LINE IN jack, then enabling the 'Local Off' setting will allow the sound triggered by the Kawai keyboard to be heard through the instrument's speakers.



Thanks James for your assistance, already ordered my CA97 plus a PX350 for teaching purposes (don't want my students to touch my beloved).

I'll post an update here of the first impressions.

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Ok here an update of my first impressions after few days with the CA97:

- It comes as a one single piece, so it's a bit of hassle to get into your home, not to mention into your music room (finally managed to do so with a couple of friends)
- Packaging and protection is excellent
- The first times I played it (and still happens), it felt like I've never played a piano, couldn't really play well cause the keys felt strange to me, a bit hard to be honest. Chopin trills weren't easier to play than in my old P85 either (still so).
- Dynamic range is great, could enjoy playing Chopin's prelude (Sofocation) among others like never.
- Piano sounds are pretty good (well layered and true balanced highs and lows) and more than enough for those who don't own piano software, though I somehow still like more how i.e. Pianoteq sounds rather than the internal sounds, will see for how long (since I'm enjoying them every time more and more).
- The more I play it, the more I improve my tecnique on it, si it's just a matter of time till I get used to the touch and maybe also the piano sounds (the rest of sounds are just ok but not to call home about them).
- A maybe silly thing to mention too is the good amount of piano books (methods) which came with it, having them encourages me to practise a bit and get back to piano school days.
- (EDIT) Was just playing and I thought you must know it, when playing even with little volume, you can feel how your fingers vibrate on the keys, not to mention your foot on the damper pedal, such an exciting feeling like when playing on the acoustic thing!

As a whole, I'm not disappointed at all, rather happy with big expectations in the short term.

I wanted to post some photos but apparently it's not possible, otherwise please advise.

Peace and love!

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Congrats David, and thank you for sharing your early impressions.

Perhaps you could repost your comments (and any pictures you upload) to one of the CA97/CA67 specific threads, such as:

http://www.pianoworld.com/forum/ubbthreads.php/topics/2376655

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Thank you for your sharing.

Originally Posted by David Izquierdo
It comes as a one single piece, so it's a bit of hassle to get into your home, not to mention into your music room (finally managed to do so with a couple of friends)
And this is one of the reasons why I'll never come back to digital pianos with traditional furniture style cabinet. Won't forget how I fell down and 106 kg box of YAMAHA Clavinova fell down on my body. And how 3 men were dying until the fourth flour. Now I'm not even talking about the advantages of modularity, flexibility and more comfort, which gives a total solution from stage piano (slab version) and right equipment (digital piano stand, good and big music rest etc).

Originally Posted by David Izquierdo
… the keys felt strange to me, a bit hard to be honest.
Good news for me (I heard a lot of times that people were talking about quite light action in GF(1) which was alarmed me). I like heavier actions especially for practicing. Hope for "VPC2" with GF2 or "MP12" after two years.

Originally Posted by David Izquierdo
Piano sounds are pretty good (well layered and true balanced highs and lows) and more than enough for those who don't own piano software
Hope for the times when built-in sounds in digital pianos will in pair with software pianos, since I hate to use a computer when it comes about musical instruments. I dream of a self-contained instrument that doesn't need a computer (at least for my purposes). MP11/MP7 are almost as is (missing the built-in sequencer, but unlimited Overdub is a good alternative, at least thanks for that).

Originally Posted by David Izquierdo
I wanted to post some photos but apparently it's not possible, otherwise please advise.
The system of posting pictures on this forum is terribly inconvenient, IMHO. So I use a third-party solutions.

Sorry for some offtopic.


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Thanks James, already posted it there.
I must say that my experience with the sounds as well as the touch is rapidly improving smile

9190 thanks for your comments. I agree on the matter of the photos and it'd definitely be nice to have a slab piano with Kawai's ultimate action, I think it will happen sooner or later..
As for the sounds, I might not have been completely fair with the onboard sounds, I've been trying them agaim and again until I better learnt how to play them, and I must say they could easily compete with some of the best piano software out there wink

Will post some youtube videos on the internet featuring its different sounds and key action as well, just waiting till I get used to it more.

Edit: Finally managed to upload some photos:

http://imgur.com/CtE71zt
http://imgur.com/ZCT3WU1
http://imgur.com/xYkngy8
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http://imgur.com/sXcHnxH
http://imgur.com/luO7sBT
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http://imgur.com/ciE54pe


Cheers!

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Originally Posted by David Izquierdo
Will post some youtube videos on the internet featuring its different sounds and key action as well

Thank you, would be interesting.

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Two questions DAvid:

- can we move the later discussion about CA97 to any thread about the CA97? There is one above about who actually played on it, and two others as well...

- could you record anything by an external microphone? But not only the middle of the keyboard, but the whole range. Unfortunately, demo songs are always not going into bass and high too much, not to show the imperfections of piano sounds...


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Hi Capelli,

Yes and yes wink

I'll record some samples as requested, as well as some line recorded songs.

Regards!


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Thanks, great smile

I asked, becase line in is often sounding very different from an actual piano.

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Originally Posted by Kawai James
I don't believe there are any plans to utilise the latest 'Grand Feel II' action in a controller or stage piano at this point.


Grrrrrr!

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Grrrrrr!
That's a good point. I agree. laugh

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