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#2403057 - 03/27/15 06:48 AM Dave Frank - jazz teaching with humor
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I've already looked at alot of video lessons of Dave Frank ,and decided to turn to him with а open request: Dave simply must devote one of future lessons to a sense of humor in jazz, jazz improvisation and jazz teaching. I am more than sure that Dave Frank is one of the most appropriate for this pianists . How many very professional jazz video lessons looks like filmed process of dissertation defense ...

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#2403081 - 03/27/15 08:30 AM Re: Dave Frank - jazz teaching with humor [Re: Nahum]
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Thank you for your kind regards. What was the price we decided upon Nachum, based on the current scheckle to dollar ratio? You know, it's a VERY VERY good idea, thank you Dad, I mean Nachum.

Some of the funniest players that come to mind are Art Tatum, Jonathan and Darlene Edwards, Spike Jones,Pete Barbutti, Charlie Parker, Clark Terry, Harpo and Chico Marx (I do have a class up on them)..who else?

DF

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#2403120 - 03/27/15 10:11 AM Re: Dave Frank - jazz teaching with humor [Re: Nahum]
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Fats Waller, Erroll Garner, Dizzy Gillespie, Nat King Cole (at the piano), Slim Gaillard ?

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#2403124 - 03/27/15 10:16 AM Re: Dave Frank - jazz teaching with humor [Re: Nahum]
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Ooops- some non-pianists in there. Can you spot them?

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#2403135 - 03/27/15 10:37 AM Re: Dave Frank - jazz teaching with humor [Re: Nahum]
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Thelonius!!!
and also O.Coleman!

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#2403693 - 03/28/15 05:26 PM Re: Dave Frank - jazz teaching with humor [Re: Nahum]
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This would be awesome!
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#2403796 - 03/28/15 11:28 PM Re: Dave Frank - jazz teaching with humor [Re: Nahum]
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jazz can't be funny, its to convoluted, not like this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aSDe7EbHLIY

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#2403814 - 03/29/15 12:46 AM Re: Dave Frank - jazz teaching with humor [Re: Nahum]
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#2403817 - 03/29/15 01:02 AM Re: Dave Frank - jazz teaching with humor [Re: Nahum]
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laugh laugh

A typical example from Monk :


- from 1:20

But of course, all this solo charged crazy humor.It's so much different is playing   from playing   of surrounding musicians - even Charlie Rose.


Edited by Nahum (03/29/15 02:26 AM)

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#2403900 - 03/29/15 08:11 AM Re: Dave Frank - jazz teaching with humor [Re: Nahum]
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Here are a few considerations about the humor in improvisation. As in the usual humor also in music exist a kind of its rough form - like protruding tongue or slap stick humor. I allowed myself to make a few examples:
http://www.mediafire.com/listen/vzld2b1mru2nbvu/Funny_boogie.mp3

1. The ordinary boogie woogie 1. The ordinary boogie woogie from scratch , starting with shouting "Hey!"
2. The whole phrase is built on shouts , starting with shouting "Hey!"
3. Distortion of individual pitches in melodic line to a greater extent than is required for blue notes. on piano .
4. Using musical blots - clusters , combined with primitive completely not swinging rhythm pattern .( such pattern there is eg. in bars 7-8 of Parker's Au Privave ) .

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#2403902 - 03/29/15 08:28 AM Re: Dave Frank - jazz teaching with humor [Re: Nahum]
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I think you just did the master class pops)

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#2403904 - 03/29/15 08:30 AM Re: Dave Frank - jazz teaching with humor [Re: Nahum]
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I do love the topic) Fats Waller certainly..

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#2403997 - 03/29/15 01:59 PM Re: Dave Frank - jazz teaching with humor [Re: Nahum]
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Originally Posted By Nahum

1. The ordinary boogie woogie 1. The ordinary boogie woogie from scratch , starting with shouting "Hey!"



You reminded me of Bo Dudley ...


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#2404005 - 03/29/15 02:20 PM Re: Dave Frank - jazz teaching with humor [Re: beeboss]
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Originally Posted By beeboss


You reminded me of Bo Dudley ...


Unfortunately had the honor to know him. But I'm sure (and correct me if I'm wrong) that he never created his solos by Sibelius 4 !

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#2404751 - 03/31/15 06:32 AM Re: Dave Frank - jazz teaching with humor [Re: Nahum]
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More elegantly to use a quote from a famous melody, containing
a similar motif. It looks like a use of different meanings of the same word, which allows to turn the proposition in an unexpected direction.

http://www.mediafire.com/listen/11387abdbrxc1pm/Leonard_Monk.mp3

Is easier pick a quote on given harmony:

http://www.mediafire.com/listen/fhjyphhvse9ao4t/2.mp3


Edited by Nahum (03/31/15 08:49 AM)

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#2405588 - 04/02/15 03:45 AM Re: Dave Frank - jazz teaching with humor [Re: Nahum]
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Here is an example of humorous quote by Dave Brubeck:


3:56 - 4:01

Quote quite foxy : beginning of the sentence is based on the beginning of one of the Mendelson's 4-th symphony, continued - on the song of schoolchildren, the author of which is considered Tchaikovsky :
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ES_t6bcXnVU
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And yet the phrase has a bluesy shade .



Edited by Nahum (04/02/15 04:16 AM)

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#2405795 - 04/02/15 04:10 PM Re: Dave Frank - jazz teaching with humor [Re: Nahum]
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Comic effect can also be obtained in another way: to create a dialogue smart - idiot .:




http://www.mediafire.com/view/o47h4kfncc6c8sc/4.mp3

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#2406531 - 04/04/15 06:07 PM Re: Dave Frank - jazz teaching with humor [Re: Nahum]
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What I really like is every time Dave mentions "Slice of Pizza" I'm off to the fridge for a slice!
Seriously, Dave is a joy to listen to and watch. I think I was stagnating until I watched is vids on improvising. Thank you!
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#2406683 - 04/05/15 09:23 AM Re: Dave Frank - jazz teaching with humor [Re: Dfrankjazz]
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Originally Posted By Dfrankjazz
Thank you for your kind regards. What was the price we decided upon Nachum, based on the current scheckle to dollar ratio? You know, it's a VERY VERY good idea, thank you Dad, I mean Nachum.

Some of the funniest players that come to mind are Art Tatum, Jonathan and Darlene Edwards, Spike Jones,Pete Barbutti, Charlie Parker, Clark Terry, Harpo and Chico Marx (I do have a class up on them)..who else?

DF



...Victor Borge, of course!



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#2406687 - 04/05/15 09:37 AM Re: Dave Frank - jazz teaching with humor [Re: Nahum]
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Victor, was truly funny, but not a jazz player..are there any funny classical players?

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#2406729 - 04/05/15 11:15 AM Re: Dave Frank - jazz teaching with humor [Re: Dfrankjazz]
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Originally Posted By Dfrankjazz
Victor, was truly funny, but not a jazz player..are there any funny classical players?


IGUDESMAN & JOO have a good series of classical comedy routines - Victor was the best!

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#2406827 - 04/05/15 05:19 PM Re: Dave Frank - jazz teaching with humor [Re: Dfrankjazz]
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Originally Posted By Dfrankjazz
Victor, was truly funny, but not a jazz player..are there any funny classical players?


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#2406929 - 04/06/15 02:34 AM Re: Dave Frank - jazz teaching with humor [Re: Nahum]
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All this had to be said in music ...

And nevertheless : how to activate the student a sense of humor in his improvisation?

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#2411995 - 04/20/15 06:10 AM Re: Dave Frank - jazz teaching with humor [Re: Nahum]
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Hello, I've been going through a lot of jazz tutorials lately too & wanted to say thank you to Dave Frank as well. You have a great talent for humanizing the jazz lessons that I appreciate, and your humor is part of it. I lived 6 or 7 years in NYC, and I think your style reminds me of that happy time too maybe. smile (Where else would "slice of pizza" count out quarter notes? Where I grew up it'd more likely be Mississippi.)

My favorite funny classic jazz player has to be Thomas Fats Waller, and my favorite catch phrase of his has to be "One never knows, do one?" I love his banter. He starts off 'You're Feet's Too Big' with a stomping octave walk in the bass and says "Who's that walkin' round here? / Mercy, sounds like baby patter / Baby elephant patter, that's what I calls it."


Edited by Cade (04/20/15 06:17 AM)

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#2412036 - 04/20/15 09:35 AM Re: Dave Frank - jazz teaching with humor [Re: Nahum]
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"Your pedal extremities are collasus!" Fats
I glad the videos didn't have a de-humanizing effect on you..anybody ever hear of Les Dawson? He was a famous funny English pianist/comedienne...I used to watch Pete Barbutti on the Tonight Show, he was great..he'd start by moving the Steinway bench up as he'd play slow ascending chromatic lines)

DF


Edited by Dfrankjazz (04/20/15 09:39 AM)

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#2413737 - 04/25/15 05:08 AM Re: Dave Frank - jazz teaching with humor [Re: Nahum]
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Fly Me to The Majeure Moon


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#2413890 - 04/25/15 02:09 PM Re: Dave Frank - jazz teaching with humor [Re: Nahum]
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#2414470 - Today at 08:42 AM Re: Dave Frank - jazz teaching with humor [Re: Nahum]
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Great video, Nahum. laugh

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