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#2405589 - Today at 03:46 AM Digital Pianos and aging - is older = worse?
Kaiketsu Online   content
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Registered: 04/01/15
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Hello,

I live in a rather poor country where electronics costs a lot. (new Roland RP401 = 1200$ and more).

I have found a Yamaha Clavinova CLP-230 in mint condition for 740$, incl. transport.

However,I have been also told by my friend that digital pianos lose value like PCs and what has been a 1500$ piano for 2008 isn't really worth even 740$ today. He suggested I shouldn't buy the CLP-230 and go for something for 800$ but new, since it's like buying Pentium 1 when Pentium 3 was available: who cares that the Pentium 1 was more expensive 5 years ago that pentium 3 was at the moment of release?

Can you post your opinions on the matter?

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#2405591 - Today at 04:23 AM Re: Digital Pianos and aging - is older = worse? [Re: Kaiketsu]
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Registered: 01/28/15
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Loc: Tuscany Italy
Hello, from my poimt of view it might be even worse than that. Because the Pentium example is partially true, but on top of that a digital piano has a lot of moving parts which do wear out, as an acoustic, but because of it's relatively lower price, they're not meant to last 80+ years, so the expected live is shorter, and when something brakes, i would guess replacement parts are not to be found so easily after 10 years. If you add in that dp's often are preferrably used for studying / practicing, it sometimes can actually look bad.

Moreover, since a digital piano looks like a piano, and like the newer models even after ten years, private owners ( at least in my country, Italy ) tend to not aknowledge the digital obsolescence implied, and to ask ridiculous prices.

So, if you buy used, i would look for something really recent, and replaced due to upgrade compulsion, rather than due to ageing. Where are you located? Aren't you able to buy online / doesn't this help you with prices?


Edited by Bellicapelli (5 minutes 49 seconds ago)
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#2405596 - 15 minutes 31 seconds ago Re: Digital Pianos and aging - is older = worse? [Re: Kaiketsu]
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Electronic devices are usually deprecated/written off in roughly 6 years.
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#2405598 - 12 minutes 15 seconds ago Re: Digital Pianos and aging - is older = worse? [Re: Kaiketsu]
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>He suggested I shouldn't buy the CLP-230 and go for something for 800$ but new

You can also reason the other way round. The new one deprecates very fast while a 6yo one is already completely deprecated. So maybe you should try to get an old one for almost free
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#2405600 - 3 minutes 54 seconds ago Re: Digital Pianos and aging - is older = worse? [Re: Kaiketsu]
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Loc: Portugal
A CLP-230 is likely to be around 10 years old. It has a good action, the GH, and probably doesn't sound very different from the equivalent model today in terms of sound generator (samples) and amp/ speakers.

Yamaha digital pianos do not develop very fast compared to Kawai, Roland and Casio. Also they tend to be durable and reliable, so probably keep their value well both in terms of actual utility and second hand price.

My niece and former student has a CLP220 which she bought 2nd hand on my advice for €500 three years ago. She uses this every day for practice and it is in the same condition as if it were new.


So the CLP230 could be a good deal - try to negotiate, and get it cheaper.


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#2405602 - 2 minutes 40 seconds ago Re: Digital Pianos and aging - is older = worse? [Re: Kaiketsu]
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Registered: 04/01/15
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I live in Poland. It's extremely hard to get good deals here, as Pianos are fairly pricey compared to US. (well, like everything else, to be honest).

So guys, would you recommend that CLP-230 personally, for 740$?

or rather, a new Piano for something like 800$?


Edited by Kaiketsu (1 minute 28 seconds ago)

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