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#2416818 - 05/03/15 02:12 PM Studiologic SL88
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I've been watching the forum since Musik Messe and was surprised no-one mentioned it until now, so ....here we are - in Dutch , but just as introduction (try dr. google);

http://www.bax-shop.nl/nieuws-items/musikmesse-2015-studiologic-sl88-aangekondigd

Nice controller , with zones and some multi-functional sticks (how well that works remains to be seen). Much more portable than VPC1 (sorry James), although not the same full wooden keybed. Could be very interesting as a live controller for your softsynths and piano's.

Unfortunately again ....no aftertouch. Most of you might say who cares, but as an allround 88 key controller for live music it would have been sooo nice, since there is NO 'silent' controller on the market with the combination of a high quality keybed with aftertouch AND three sensors. Come on manufacturers : who dares ?!!!

Only weighted 3 sensor aftertouch keyboards I know of are Kronos 88 and Motif XF8. If you don't need the internal sounds and workstation features you're out of luck. Still SL88 is interesting enough.

Cheers, J

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#2416850 - 05/03/15 03:52 PM Re: Studiologic SL88 [Re: JFP]
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Thanks for the info!

I guess it will contain a TP/40WOOD. For those looking for a "piano only" controller that would be basically an update of the Numa Nero or a Numa Concert without the sound.

However, maybe they will surprise us and mount a new and better keyboard :-)

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#2417622 - Today at 03:02 AM Re: Studiologic SL88 [Re: Thomas B]
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Hi Thomas,

what's wrong with the TP40Wood of the Numa Concert ? It's a responsive three sensor keybed and in the SL88 it's even enhanced with high-resolution midi and an elaborate touch-curve editor (think VPC1). I agree that it's a little bit below the quality of the GF keybeds, but hey ....it's < 20kg versus 30 or more in a much more compact casing. It don't see anyone luring the VPC1 around for gigs, but for the SL88 that is a different story + it has a nice zone editor and some controls.

Just my 50ct

Cheers, J

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#2417631 - Today at 05:08 AM Re: Studiologic SL88 [Re: JFP]
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I dont think the kronos and motif XF keyboards have 3 sensor technollogy either, but they do have aftertouch.

There are quite some 88 key GH keybeds with aftertouch tough

Studiologic VMK188 ( fatar tp40)
Arturia Keystation 88 (fatar tp100)
Many Kurzweil keyboards (fatar tp 40)
Nord stage (fatar tp40l)

Just do a ssearch at www.thomann.de masterkeybeds 88 keys, and set option with aftertouch to find them all.

And many
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#2417642 - Today at 06:18 AM Re: Studiologic SL88 [Re: JFP]
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A closer look

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#2417647 - Today at 07:07 AM Re: Studiologic SL88 [Re: Bachus]
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Originally Posted By Bachus
I dont think the kronos and motif XF keyboards have 3 sensor technollogy either, but they do have aftertouch.



As far as I know they do. And they are the only current 3 sensor keypads with AT, together perhaps with the S90xs and S70xs (not sure). All the others you mentioned are two sensor keybeds. If you don't need onboard sounds, but want a 88 weighted keybed with 3 sensor AND aftertouch , there's nothing on the market that I know of. That's why the SL88 is again a disappointment in that respect. For the rest it seems promising...

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#2417716 - Today at 12:12 PM Re: Studiologic SL88 [Re: JFP]
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Originally Posted By JFP
Originally Posted By Bachus
I dont think the kronos and motif XF keyboards have 3 sensor technollogy either, but they do have aftertouch.



As far as I know they do. And they are the only current 3 sensor keypads with AT, together perhaps with the S90xs and S70xs (not sure). All the others you mentioned are two sensor keybeds. If you don't need onboard sounds, but want a 88 weighted keybed with 3 sensor AND aftertouch , there's nothing on the market that I know of. That's why the SL88 is again a disappointment in that respect. For the rest it seems promising...


As far as i know, the 3 in RH3 and GH3 does not stand for tripple sensor, but for 3rd itteration of the GH and RH keybeds, the followups of GH2 and Rh2.

I think currently only Roland, Kawai and Casio have triple sensor keybeds.. None of the feature aftertouch... And according to James of Kawai, tripple sensor technollogy will not work well with an oldfashioned aftertouch mechanic.
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#2417721 - Today at 12:21 PM Re: Studiologic SL88 [Re: Bachus]
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Originally Posted By Bachus

As far as i know, the 3 in RH3 and GH3 does not stand for tripple sensor, but for 3rd itteration of the GH and RH keybeds, the followups of GH2 and Rh2.

I think currently only Roland, Kawai and Casio have triple sensor keybeds.


I don't think this is correct. I'm pretty sure that:

1. The predecessor of GH3 was GH, not GH2
2. GH3 has three sensors similar to those in Casio and Roland.
3. Yamaha has had 3 sensors as standard in their mid- high-range pianos for a longer time than Kawai.
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#2417724 - Today at 12:28 PM Re: Studiologic SL88 [Re: toddy]
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Originally Posted By toddy
Originally Posted By Bachus

As far as i know, the 3 in RH3 and GH3 does not stand for tripple sensor, but for 3rd itteration of the GH and RH keybeds, the followups of GH2 and Rh2.

I think currently only Roland, Kawai and Casio have triple sensor keybeds.


I don't think this is correct. I'm pretty sure that:

1. The predecessor of GH3 was GH, not GH2
2. GH3 has three sensors similar to those in Casio and Roland.
3. Yamaha has had 3 sensors as standard in their mid- high-range pianos for a longer time than Kawai.


Never to old to learn... But why arent yamaha and korg promoting their 3 sensor technollogy really big? Actually not at all...

And about Korg, the Oasys has RH2, and Kronos RH3.... Just allways tought they where follow ups...

Just wondering, are all the tri sensor keybeds based on an identical technollogy, or does Kawais technollogy different as it works really well?
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#2417735 - 16 minutes 9 seconds ago Re: Studiologic SL88 [Re: Bachus]
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Originally Posted By Bachus
But why arent yamaha and korg promoting their 3 sensor technollogy really big? Actually not at all...


No idea about Korg, but Yamaha have been promoting their 3 sensor action for about 10 years, since it came out. Here's a pretty typical advert

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QvhboFkY4pQ
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