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#2424636 - 05/25/15 12:53 PM Any good cliches to recommend listening to ?
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I've been writing music for about 6 months. I've been trying to avoid cliches. But someone (Mark Polishook - a wonderful teacher BTW) suggested I try writing some cliches. And it dawned on me that imitating or (hopefully maybe better) mutating them might be a good learning exercise.
All I've come up with - cliche wise - is the old I vi ii V - chord progression. So maybe it would be fun to put on your musical thinking hat or cap of choice and suggest some cliches that you either like, find interesting, or are maybe way too cliched. Thinking as I type here - could a series of ii V's - a harmonic sequence be considered a jazz cliche ?
I'm thinking of sophisticated pop like Sinatra. Also jazz standards. If you have any you want to share, please give a youtube example and the approximate time(s) in the youtube vid.

It just occurred to me, the ii V iii Vi ii V chord changes at the end of many jazz tunes is another big one.


Edited by indigo_dave (05/25/15 01:24 PM)
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#2424747 - 05/25/15 06:32 PM Re: Any good cliches to recommend listening to ? [Re: indigo_dave]
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gJgQsYBi2-g at 0:000001

the james bond move: minor chord , minor chord b6, minor 7 chord, minor b6 chord, minor 6th

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#2424756 - 05/25/15 06:47 PM Re: Any good cliches to recommend listening to ? [Re: indigo_dave]
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NA6OCGLCUec at

the refrain at 1:21 contains a similar descending line: minor chord, minor maj 7th, minor 7th chord, minor 6th

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#2424760 - 05/25/15 06:56 PM Re: Any good cliches to recommend listening to ? [Re: indigo_dave]
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hNv5sPu0C1E

Star wars, the emperor march has minor chords at a 3rds distance. It has been used to portray evil since Wagner. It's all over the place in film scores. Subsequently; major chords at a thirds distance has been used to portray heroism
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ovxbXaJs-90 (at 0:00001)


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#2425180 - Yesterday at 07:13 PM Re: Any good cliches to recommend listening to ? [Re: indigo_dave]
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Thanks huge Klink. Or should I call you Mr. Klonk.

I'm going to play around with the descending 7th thing. And the ascending 5th thing. The James Bond rising 5th is so iconic.

But hey, I have Stevie Wonder's Innervisions album in vinyl. When I listened to "Golden Lady" - "Don't You Worry About A Thing" popped into my mind. The descending half step thing. Stevie got mileage out of it. By the way, I haven't listened to any of my vinyl in decades. Will get a turntable one of these days.

The descending 8 #7 7 6 (the top note) starts at the very beginning.
Don't You Worry Bout A Thing - by Stevie Wonder
https://youtu.be/QkBUx6Zn6mo


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