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#2425128 - Yesterday at 04:48 PM Line-outs
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Howdy folks,

It seems absolutely logical to me to need line-outs to connect to an audio interface or powered speakers.

But with like half of the DPs I've looked at don't even have them. Are they that unnecessary or am I in the wrong price range for this to be a standard feature?

Thanks!

CZ
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#2425166 - Yesterday at 06:40 PM Re: Line-outs [Re: Cue Zephyr]
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May be the price range, but you can always get the audio out through the headphone jack, or is that also missing?

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#2425174 - Yesterday at 06:52 PM Re: Line-outs [Re: Cue Zephyr]
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Headphone jacks are present in all the models I've looked at, many even have two. It's the sub-grand price range, by the way.
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#2425203 - Yesterday at 08:20 PM Re: Line-outs [Re: Cue Zephyr]
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I've been waiting to check-out the new Yamaha P115 which has line-out / AUX ports, but then they chose to only include USB to Host, no standard MIDI ... urgh ...

from the Yamaha website
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Power-up and get connected (Yamaha P115)
AUX ­Out jacks allow audio to be sent to an external amplifier or powered speaker for powerful performances during live events, parties and a wide variety of situations. These professional 1/4" jacks connect without disabling the built-in speakers ...
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#2425222 - Yesterday at 09:31 PM Re: Line-outs [Re: Cue Zephyr]
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This topic comes up from time to time... here is an excellent article from Sweetwater on the topic of using a Headphone Out as Stereo Line Outs. In a nutshell, most headphone amps (and I'd say all of them on digital pianos) operate within the impedance and voltage ratings acceptable for connection to a line level input. You just need an adapter to change from 1/4" TRS or 1/8" TRS to split Y 1/4" TS to connect to your amp or audio interface.

Obviously, if you need to run a long distance (like 50' or more), balanced outputs or a direct box would be ideal (like running a signal to the PA mixer front of house). In which case, you either spend money on a proper stage piano with balanced outs, like the Roland RD-800 or Yamaha CP4 for example. Or you get a Stereo Direct Box and run your headphone out or unbalanced AUX outs to it and call it a day.

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#2425315 - Today at 04:21 AM Re: Line-outs [Re: ElmerJFudd]
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Originally Posted By ElmerJFudd
This topic comes up from time to time... here is an excellent article from Sweetwater on the topic of using a Headphone Out as Stereo Line Outs. In a nutshell, most headphone amps (and I'd say all of them on digital pianos) operate within the impedance and voltage ratings acceptable for connection to a line level input.

Thanks! That's very helpful. So what I get form this, is that unbalanced line-outs in this segment are not that much better than headphone outs, and as far as I know, balanced line outs only start showing up one segment up from this.
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#2425394 - Today at 09:04 AM Re: Line-outs [Re: Cue Zephyr]
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I think I would phrase it more like, in the absence of proper unbalanced outs you can use the headphone output without worry. If you're performing on stage, a proper stage piano with balanced outs is preferred, but if you must use unbalanced or headphone outs a cost effective stereo direct box will solve the problem.

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#2425406 - Today at 09:38 AM Re: Line-outs [Re: Cue Zephyr]
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Looking at the Casio Privia models, either no line-outs or unbalanced line-outs appear to be the only option. The only other model I saw having line-outs is the Yamaha P-115.
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#2425417 - 34 minutes 44 seconds ago Re: Line-outs [Re: Cue Zephyr]
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Are you looking for a console style digital piano (amp, speakers, stand, pedals all built in) or a stage piano (slab - you'll be traveling with it and will use an amplifier, connect pedals, place it on a stand, etc.). That's the first question to answer. And have you set yourself a budget?

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#2425419 - 26 minutes 32 seconds ago Re: Line-outs [Re: Cue Zephyr]
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My budget is pretty much one grand right now. Home use but I have pretty good monitor speakers (KRK RP6 G2).

I've got my eyes on the Privia Pro PX-5S as we speak.
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#2425423 - 12 minutes 24 seconds ago Re: Line-outs [Re: Cue Zephyr]
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Excellent choice. Perfect for the amateur, semi pro, and pro even looking for light weight, a good action and bread and butter sound set with 256 note polyphony. It also has the 1/4" unbalanced outputs you desire. And, just because they could, a very capable synthesizer section for when the piano, electric piano, strings, and the rest begin to bore you.

Keep in mind, you should not pay $1299 for this board, we frequently see it for $999 and even less second hand. It's a winner in the price/performance category.

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