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I have researched so much in the last day, after making this purchase. Our daughter just started lessons this year, and we needed to get a new digital/ or acoustic piano. She is 7.
We decided a beginner piano is best. We were set to spend about 1,000 on a digital, and decided on a J Strauss small console. From the paperwork it is 10 yrs old, though I would like to verify that. Looked in great condition, and were able to get for a good price , said it retailed at 6,000. was selling for 2200, but we got it less. Now, I read some negative things about the brand, and some good things. I coming to find out I guess it was a stencil brand, from East Coast Piano. Which is now out of business?, but we bought from the piano store in Edison, which I think is the son of the original owner of one of ECP stores?
Anyway, do any of you own one?? Please keep in mind we know this is not a top of a line brand, but figured it looked in great condition, so thought we could always upgrade in a few years or more if our daughter stays serious.
Thoughts? We already purchased, and being delivered in a few days. Also, how do I really verify the year made. We have the serial number.
Thanks!! We had a great experience there, but just curious about the piano.

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I'm sorry to have to say this, but they are really junky pianos. I've played on several. I had a student that had one. It needed constant fixing. Keys would become really hard to press. The tech, an RPT, would come and fix it and less than a year later all the same problems would come back.

You'd be better off with just about anything else. I hope it's not to late for you to back out! Sorry again...

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Ugg...It sounded so beautiful!

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If you can't, you've lost a little money. Fortunately, just a little money. If your young one takes to piano, you can upgrade in short order.

The lesson is to do a bit more of your research before pulling the trigger instead of after. smile

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Originally Posted by Piano*Dad
If you can't, you've lost a little money. Fortunately, just a little money. If your young one takes to piano, you can upgrade in short order.

The lesson is to do a bit more of your research before pulling the trigger instead of after. smile


Well. I usually do!!!!!First thing we did on a whim. But we went out looking for a digital, and figured we would just look at the pianos. It was in our budget, and we have been told its best for our daughter to use a real piano instead of digital. We just didnt want to really invest in much, well, because she is only 6. There was a Baldwin same price, but over 25 years old and didnt look in great shape. We knew from her teacher to be cautious, but seemed like a great starter piano.

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Originally Posted by Piano*Dad
If you can't, you've lost a little money. Fortunately, just a little money. If your young one takes to piano, you can upgrade in short order.

The lesson is to do a bit more of your research before pulling the trigger instead of after. smile
Originally Posted by Piano*Dad
If you can't, you've lost a little money. Fortunately, just a little money. If your young one takes to piano, you can upgrade in short order.

The lesson is to do a bit more of your research before pulling the trigger instead of after. smile


Also, you didn't say if you had experience with this brand ? smile I just heard from someone who bought this brand years ago, and they said they loved it!

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Yes, you're right. I have not played it personally (but Dan has). And I suspect it could be a fine starter piano if the action is anywhere close to consistent. But if you look through threads here, I think you will see a highly critical reaction to the seemingly very deceptive marketing practices of that stencil. Like many of us, you may conclude that it was a very low-price-point Chinese stencil marketed heavily to make it seem like a more "valuable" (hence higher priced) piano than it was.

I have played other entry-level Chinese uprights. Even the new ones were usually quite poor in quality.

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Originally Posted by Piano*Dad
Yes, you're right. I have not played it personally (but Dan has). And I suspect it could be a fine starter piano if the action is anywhere close to consistent. But if you look through threads here, I think you will see a highly critical reaction to the seemingly very deceptive marketing practices of that stencil. Like many of us, you may conclude that it was a very low-price-point Chinese stencil marketed heavily to make it seem like a more "valuable" (hence higher priced) piano than it was.

I have played other entry-level Chinese uprights. Even the new ones were usually quite poor in quality.


I hear ya! I must agree if we were spending more then 4,000 I don't think we would buy a stencil brand period. My daughter won't be playing anything too intricate on it as she is such a beginner. Just hoping now it will last us at least a few years.

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Originally Posted by pianolover2015
My daughter won't be playing anything too intricate on it as she is such a beginner. Just hoping now it will last us at least a few years.


This is a sensible approach. Even better, assume the best until proven otherwise. In the facts that concern you column you have the following:

The piano sounded beautiful.

You got a price you considered acceptable.

You had a good experience with the shop.

Now you're plying the Internet where you can find anything you want from ratings tables configured to make an obscure brand shine to comments from people that the thing you bought is most likely a piece of junk. Along the way you might find that the company that started the brand was formerly selling aluminum siding, then stencil pianos, and has now moved on to solar energy and whole house water filtration. Or maybe that the founder is a descendant of Simon Legree.

Many people have a low tolerance of stencil pianos, especially those from China. And a stncil brand that pilfers the name of a treasured Viennese hero is the worst transgression imaginable.

I'd suggest that, based on what pertinent facts you actually have, you not try to nix the deal based on buyer's remorse, but anticipate that the thing will still sound beautiful when delivered and that any key easing necessary will be routine maintenance.

I have one question for you.

Do you have any kind of warranty from the shop?


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My daughter won't be playing anything too intricate on it as she is such a beginner. Just hoping now it will last us at least a few years.


This is a sensible approach. Even better, assume the best until proven otherwise. In the facts that concern you column you have the following:

The piano sounded beautiful.

You got a price you considered acceptable.

You had a good experience with the shop.

Now you're plying the Internet where you can find anything you want from ratings tables configured to make an obscure brand shine to comments from people that the thing you bought is most likely a piece of junk. Along the way you might find that the company that started the brand was formerly selling aluminum siding, then stencil pianos, and has now moved on to solar energy and whole house water filtration. Or maybe that the founder is a descendant of Simon Legree.

Many people have a low tolerance of stencil pianos, especially those from China. And a stncil brand that pilfers the name of a treasured Viennese hero is the worst transgression imaginable.

I'd suggest that, based on what pertinent facts you actually have, you not try to nix the deal based on buyer's remorse, but anticipate that the thing will still sound beautiful when delivered and that any key easing necessary will be routine maintenance.

I have one question for you.

Do you have any kind of warranty from the shop?


Thank you! I think too much sometimes. Yes! 3 year, and he said we can return or trade in any time . We felt good with the entire deal. Plus, it really wasn't a big investment. We just want it to work and sound good. If she sticks with it, we can move on to a better piano when she turn 10 , or even older . We just had a good feeling about it.

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Three years give you something as long as the shop stays in business. It's much better to approach them (if necessary) as a fussy buyer than a customer trying to back out of a deal.

Props to you for getting your daughter into music-making.



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The son has been in business 8 yrs, but a family business over 30 yrs I think.


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