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#2436880 - Yesterday at 02:27 AM Roland f130r volume level for grand piano.
nigelchen Offline
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Registered: 12/25/14
Posts: 7
Hi i have a roland F130r. May i know what volume level should i put for my piano in order to replicate the actual volume of a grand piano?

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#2437134 - Yesterday at 08:46 PM Re: Roland f130r volume level for grand piano. [Re: nigelchen]
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Registered: 12/26/12
Posts: 1988
Loc: Richmond, BC, Canada
A grand piano makes a _lot_ of sound! Digital pianos that try to match the volume of a grand piano have rather powerful amplifiers:

Piano . . . . . . . . . . . Total output power

Roland V-Piano Grand: . . 240 watts

Yamaha Avant Grand N3: . . . 500 watts

Yamaha Avant Grand N1 . . . . 175 watts

As opposed to:

Roland F130R . . . . . . . . 24 watts

So I suggest that you turn the volume up _all the way_ on the F130R. If it distorts when you play loud passages, turn it down until it doesn't distort.

If you use headphones, the F130R _will_ produce "grand piano sound levels" with most headphones. You might want to turn the volume down, if you do that.

. Charles

PS - this is a very primitive comparison. The _right_ way to find out is to visit a showroom with both a grand piano, and an F130R, on display. Buy or borrow a "sound-level meter", mount it on a tripod near your head as you sit at the piano.

Measure the sound -- at your ears -- from the grand. Adjust the F130R so it matches that level (if you can).

You can do something similar with a digital recorder, if it has a calibrated volume indicator.
. Charles
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#2437142 - Yesterday at 09:43 PM Re: Roland f130r volume level for grand piano. [Re: nigelchen]
Michiyo-Fir Offline
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Registered: 10/12/05
Posts: 221
Hmm this is interesting. I find I have to turn the volume up to 80-85% with headphones on my N1 and 90-95% through the built in speakers to match the level of sound I'm used to from our grand.

Since I don't really understand the watts unit in terms of how loud I hear, does the F130 produce only 13% of the volume of an N1? That seems impossible? How would anyone be able to hear the piano... Unless the watts is not linearly proportionate to the amount of sound produced...
Yamaha Avant Grand N1, Yamaha CP300, Bosendorfer 290, Steingraeber A170

#2437152 - Yesterday at 10:50 PM Re: Roland f130r volume level for grand piano. [Re: nigelchen]
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Registered: 06/07/03
Posts: 22582
Loc: Oakland
A very complicated subject. You are comparing the energy that comes out of a piano with that which comes out of the loudspeaker. That depends on the coupling between the soundboard and strings of the piano and the air in the piano, and the coupling between the cone of the loudspeaker and the air, and those are not the same. It is not comparable to the electrical energy going into the loudspeaker.

Then there is the issue of how the energy is dispersed in the air, and that is different.

You really cannot compare except by listening, and even that will depend on circumstances.
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#2437157 - Yesterday at 11:14 PM Re: Roland f130r volume level for grand piano. [Re: nigelchen]
Morodiene Offline
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Registered: 04/06/07
Posts: 12760
Loc: Boynton Beach, FL
Loudness is perception, which is hard to measure as it varies from person to person. Generally, you should turn your DP up to about 80% of the volume. However, that may not get you to where you want to be. You may want to consider investing in monitors for your DP rather the rely upon the onboard speakers. Most on-board speakers are lacking in power, so getting some monitors would greatly help the volume and dimension.

I'm sure if you come up with a budget, there are plenty of suggestions the people here can offer.
private piano/voice teacher FT


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