Welcome to the Piano World Piano Forums
Over 2 million posts about pianos, digital pianos, and all types of keyboard instruments
Join the World's Largest Community of Piano Lovers (it's free)
It's Fun to Play the Piano ... Please Pass It On!

Gifts and supplies for the musician

the Forums & Piano World

Trying Something New with Search
(ad) Pianoteq
(ad) Pearl River
Pearl River Pianos
(ad) P B Guide
Acoustic & Digital Piano Guide
(ad) Lindeblad Piano
Lindeblad Piano Restoration
Who's Online
123 registered (Alexank, A Cerulean State, Alexander Borro, alex7121, 36251, 30 invisible), 1406 Guests and 7 Spiders online.
Key: Admin, Global Mod, Mod
(ad) Estonia Piano
Estonia Pianos
Quick Links to Useful Piano & Music Resources
Our Classified Ads
Find Piano Professionals-

*Piano Dealers - Piano Stores
*Piano Tuners
*Piano Teachers
*Piano Movers
*Piano Restorations
*Piano Manufacturers

Quick Links:
*Advertise On Piano World
*Free Piano Newsletter
*Online Piano Recitals
*Piano Recitals Index
*Piano & Music Accessories
*Live Piano Venues
*Music School Listings
* Buying a Piano
*Buying A Acoustic Piano
*Buying a Digital Piano
*Pianos for Sale
*Sell Your Piano
*How Old is My Piano?
*Piano Books
*Piano Art, Pictures, & Posters
*Directory/Site Map
*Virtual Piano
*Music Word Search
*Piano Screen Saver
*Piano Videos
*Virtual Piano Chords
Sheet Music
(PW is an affiliate)
Sheet Music Plus Featured Sale
Topic Options
#2446657 - Yesterday at 10:12 PM Help choosing a digital baby grand
Or Moyal Online   content
Junior Member

Registered: 05/30/15
Posts: 3
Hey there! Longtime reader, first-time poster.

I've played the piano since I was 7. I was never trained so I can't read or write sheet music, but I can thankfully play by ear fairly adeptly. For the last few years I've been playing on the Yamaha DGX 650 - it's been a good fit.

However, I'm buying my first home and want a full-sized piano for the living room. Naturally, my first instinct is to go with the real thing - but I've always played on C for some strange reason, so the ability to transpose keys is crucial for me. Therefore, digital.

I've played the Samick SG 210 and wasn't blown away. I haven't played the Suzukis but hear they're crap. I've been led to believe my best fit is either the Samick 310, the Yamaha CLP 465 and the Kurzweil MPG 200s. The Yamaha is probably out of my price range but I could stretch if it's easily the best option - I haven't been able to find much info on the Kurzweil, but I can get one locally (in Dallas) brand new for $3,500.

I know hundreds of you folks know the subject matter better than I do, so I figured I'd check here. Anyone have a recommendation?

Thanks, guys (and girls)!

(ads) Sweetwater / Roland
Your Next Keyboard is at Sweetwater

Click Here

#2446673 - Yesterday at 11:22 PM Re: Help choosing a digital baby grand [Re: Or Moyal]
MacMacMac Offline
4000 Post Club Member

Registered: 09/24/09
Posts: 4239
Loc: North Carolina
Why a baby grand cabinet? You say "full-sized piano" ... but the digital "grand" pianos are generally junior-tiny-baby grand simulations. They're just a pregnant cabinet slapped onto the back of a standard console.

I've not seen the Samick or Kurzweil you mentioned. but that Yamaha is under 4 feet deep. And the innards are comparable to the low-end, previous generation Clavinova CLP440 model.

You pay a heavy premium for that "grand" cabinet, and it's not very grand at all.

#2446685 - Today at 01:16 AM Re: Help choosing a digital baby grand [Re: MacMacMac]
Or Moyal Online   content
Junior Member

Registered: 05/30/15
Posts: 3
Interesting. I was under the impression the baby grands played better than the smaller digital pianos. I like the aesthetics of a grand piano look, but if the only material difference is the 'pregnant' cabinet I may have to reconsider.

#2446709 - Today at 03:38 AM Re: Help choosing a digital baby grand [Re: Or Moyal]
spanishbuddha Offline
2000 Post Club Member

Registered: 11/08/09
Posts: 2631
Loc: UK
The only digital 'grands' that play better are from the hybrid series from Yamaha such as the N3. The example you chose the 465 can be matched for playability by most better digital consoles and stage pianos (with added speakers). If you like the aesthetic of the baby grand form factor in a digital go for for it, but Mac is pretty much spot on you can likely do better for the same money in a different form.

#2446758 - Today at 10:19 AM Re: Help choosing a digital baby grand [Re: Or Moyal]
ElmerJFudd Offline
500 Post Club Member

Registered: 01/07/10
Posts: 647
Yamaha Avant Grand N3
Grand piano action
Multiple amplifiers and speakers to fill a room with sound, including a sub woofer underneath for excellent bass reproduction.
Also rumbles like a piano should when the lower frequencies are pronounced. You can feel it under your fingers.
As furniture, it has a grand piano polished ebony look in a case that is large but also significantly shorter than a baby grand.
3 pedal system on a piano lyre feels very good. Just check it everyonce in a while to make sure the screws are still tight.

Otherwise, it's the best choice in digital grands.

Other form factors of the same tech are the N2 and N1.
If you go all the way down to the N1 take a look at the Kawai CA97.

#2446772 - Today at 11:10 AM Re: Help choosing a digital baby grand [Re: Or Moyal]
funkycornwall Offline
Full Member

Registered: 10/17/09
Posts: 100
Loc: Cornwall. UK
Yes the Yamaha Avant Grande N3 is an excellent choice but it is also extremely expensive and likely to be outside the budget here. However there are plenty of very attractive upright piano style digitals like the Kawai CS10, Roland LX15e, Yamaha CLP585 which all look very good in any living room. there are other cheaper choices too but I think the products which most resemble a real acoustic upright look the best. A budget choice might be the Casio Celviano AP-460 although this does not look quite so classy. Much cheaper though. I wonder if Casio will come up with a product which looks just like an acoustic upright. I would not be surprised.

#2446855 - 2 minutes 47 seconds ago Re: Help choosing a digital baby grand [Re: Or Moyal]
Or Moyal Online   content
Junior Member

Registered: 05/30/15
Posts: 3
Thanks for the insight, everyone. I appreciate it!


Moderator:  Piano World 
Shop our Store for Music Lovers!
PianoSupplies.com is Piano World's Online Store
Please visit our store today.
Composer Statuettes
(ad) Teaching Music To Children
Teaching Music to Children
(ad) Yamaha Stage Pianos
Yamaha CP4 & CP40 Stage Pianos
(ads) PD - WNG - MH
(ad 125) Sweetwater - Digital Keyboards & Other Gear
Digital Pianos at Sweetwater
(125ad) Dampp Chaser
Dampp Chaser Piano Life Saver
New Topics - Multiple Forums
Kawai MP7 changing rhythms
by kiwikeys
08/02/15 02:28 PM
Weird Trade Question
by MAK
08/02/15 02:07 PM
Who are the top 5 or 10 harpsichordists?
by BWV 846
08/02/15 01:20 PM
Grade 10 RCM Study Questions
by Rothwell
08/02/15 11:54 AM
Adult beginner online help
by 88slowpoke
08/02/15 09:01 AM
What's Hot!!
New Forum for Selling Your Products or Services
Historic Piano Documents
Posting Pictures on the Forums
Forums Rules & Help
on Piano World

The world's most popular piano web site.
Forum Stats
80,227 Registered Members
44 Forums
165,936 Topics
2,432,217 Posts

Most users ever online: 15,252 @ 03/21/10 11:39 PM

Visit our online store for gifts for music lovers

Help keep the forums up and running with a donation, any amount is appreciated!
Or by becoming a Subscribing member! Thank-you.
Donate   Subscribe
Our Piano Related Classified Ads
Dealers | Tuners | Lessons | Movers | Restorations | Pianos For Sale | Sell Your Piano |

Advertise on Piano World
| Subscribe | Piano World | PianoSupplies.com | Advertise on Piano World | Donate | Link to Us | Classifieds |
| |Contact | Privacy | Legal | About Us | Site Map | Free Newsletter | Press Room |

copyright 1997 - 2015 Piano World ® all rights reserved
No part of this site may be reproduced without prior written permission