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#2446657 - Yesterday at 10:12 PM Help choosing a digital baby grand
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Registered: 05/30/15
Posts: 3
Hey there! Longtime reader, first-time poster.

I've played the piano since I was 7. I was never trained so I can't read or write sheet music, but I can thankfully play by ear fairly adeptly. For the last few years I've been playing on the Yamaha DGX 650 - it's been a good fit.

However, I'm buying my first home and want a full-sized piano for the living room. Naturally, my first instinct is to go with the real thing - but I've always played on C for some strange reason, so the ability to transpose keys is crucial for me. Therefore, digital.

I've played the Samick SG 210 and wasn't blown away. I haven't played the Suzukis but hear they're crap. I've been led to believe my best fit is either the Samick 310, the Yamaha CLP 465 and the Kurzweil MPG 200s. The Yamaha is probably out of my price range but I could stretch if it's easily the best option - I haven't been able to find much info on the Kurzweil, but I can get one locally (in Dallas) brand new for $3,500.

I know hundreds of you folks know the subject matter better than I do, so I figured I'd check here. Anyone have a recommendation?

Thanks, guys (and girls)!

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#2446673 - Yesterday at 11:22 PM Re: Help choosing a digital baby grand [Re: Or Moyal]
MacMacMac Offline
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Registered: 09/24/09
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Loc: North Carolina
Why a baby grand cabinet? You say "full-sized piano" ... but the digital "grand" pianos are generally junior-tiny-baby grand simulations. They're just a pregnant cabinet slapped onto the back of a standard console.

I've not seen the Samick or Kurzweil you mentioned. but that Yamaha is under 4 feet deep. And the innards are comparable to the low-end, previous generation Clavinova CLP440 model.

You pay a heavy premium for that "grand" cabinet, and it's not very grand at all.

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#2446685 - Today at 01:16 AM Re: Help choosing a digital baby grand [Re: MacMacMac]
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Registered: 05/30/15
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Interesting. I was under the impression the baby grands played better than the smaller digital pianos. I like the aesthetics of a grand piano look, but if the only material difference is the 'pregnant' cabinet I may have to reconsider.

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#2446709 - Today at 03:38 AM Re: Help choosing a digital baby grand [Re: Or Moyal]
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Registered: 11/08/09
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Loc: UK
The only digital 'grands' that play better are from the hybrid series from Yamaha such as the N3. The example you chose the 465 can be matched for playability by most better digital consoles and stage pianos (with added speakers). If you like the aesthetic of the baby grand form factor in a digital go for for it, but Mac is pretty much spot on you can likely do better for the same money in a different form.

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#2446758 - Today at 10:19 AM Re: Help choosing a digital baby grand [Re: Or Moyal]
ElmerJFudd Offline
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Registered: 01/07/10
Posts: 647
Yamaha Avant Grand N3
Grand piano action
Multiple amplifiers and speakers to fill a room with sound, including a sub woofer underneath for excellent bass reproduction.
Also rumbles like a piano should when the lower frequencies are pronounced. You can feel it under your fingers.
As furniture, it has a grand piano polished ebony look in a case that is large but also significantly shorter than a baby grand.
3 pedal system on a piano lyre feels very good. Just check it everyonce in a while to make sure the screws are still tight.

Otherwise, it's the best choice in digital grands.

Other form factors of the same tech are the N2 and N1.
If you go all the way down to the N1 take a look at the Kawai CA97.

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#2446772 - Today at 11:10 AM Re: Help choosing a digital baby grand [Re: Or Moyal]
funkycornwall Offline
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Registered: 10/17/09
Posts: 100
Loc: Cornwall. UK
Yes the Yamaha Avant Grande N3 is an excellent choice but it is also extremely expensive and likely to be outside the budget here. However there are plenty of very attractive upright piano style digitals like the Kawai CS10, Roland LX15e, Yamaha CLP585 which all look very good in any living room. there are other cheaper choices too but I think the products which most resemble a real acoustic upright look the best. A budget choice might be the Casio Celviano AP-460 although this does not look quite so classy. Much cheaper though. I wonder if Casio will come up with a product which looks just like an acoustic upright. I would not be surprised.

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#2446855 - 2 minutes 47 seconds ago Re: Help choosing a digital baby grand [Re: Or Moyal]
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Posts: 3
Thanks for the insight, everyone. I appreciate it!

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