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Dogperson, this is just the most wonderful thread! Thank you for starting it! Reading all of these posts has been... validating! I feel a monster post coming on... A string of non-sequitur... Please forgive me. And all of it must be read through the filter of a 54-year-old. I turned 54 last Monday, so I am what some would consider "over the crest of the hill." Definitely, I see things differently than when I was 30. Or 40. Or 53... One time, a gal wheeled herself up to the piano and said, "I'll give you a nickle if you play 'Stardust.'" See what I mean? P.S. Greet each person individually on your way out. Shake their hand, touch their shoulder, look them in the eye -- whatever you can do to make contact. Even if you don't get a response, what you do goes in and bounces around.
Yes! And one of the caregivers told me to never leave without thoroughly washing my hands...this after she saw me shaking some hands. Yes! And wash your hands before you get there, too! And do not ever, ever go if you feel even the slightest hint of a bug or a cold. Just cancel. Your explanation over the phone to whomever you speak will be met with enthusiasm on account of the reason for your absence. It is very rewarding to play at these places. As far as repertoire, it does somewhat depend on the crowd. I went into an assisted living facility hoping to play jazz standards, but found this particular group preferred Amazing Grace, hymns, and folk songs like My Bonnie. Meanwhile, upstairs in memory care, the patient's daughter was cranking out jazz standards on the piano and her mother, the patient, knew and was singing the lyrics. Another crowd, on New Year's Eve, in a band setting, where we were playing jazz standards, started requesting some early rock 'n roll and Latin styled tunes such as bossas. Different ages and different backgrounds make for a diversity of interest in musical styles. Gracegren, this got me to thinking about the epistemology of "crowd." And it prompted me to dig into some Personal Messages I've sent some of my PW friends over the years as I've been learning and experiencing this nursing home/assisted living piano playing thing... Here is a relevant thought: "[...] The thing that I wanted to share with you is this: There is one gal who loves the standards from the American songbook, and one gal who loves the classical. Of the large handful of people who are in the room when I play, these two are the closest of listeners. The gal who loves the standards usually sits next to the piano and sings/hums along and we talk between songs. The gal who loves the classical does not talk much at all--in fact, I believe English is not her first language because when she does say something, it sounds European, but I can't tell which language. Sometimes one or the other of them aren't there, so I'll play more of one kind of music than the other, depending. If they are both there, I'll mix it up. But last Friday, the gal who loves the classical came in to the room just as I was about to wrap it up (I get an hour, and then the institution's schedule takes over). But when I saw her come in, I got out the Bach/Beethoven/Brahms anthology and started in with a few things. But, the thing that I wanted to share with you is this: I played the first movement of Beethoven's Moonlight Sonata (lack of points for naming it that way, except for the fact that I was playing it that way... if you know what I mean), and as I was playing it, I had a leap in the performance cognition department such that I got into a zone where I was completely playing it FOR and TO the gal who loves the classical. It's hard to describe--but I wasn't worried about hitting wrong notes, I wasn't worried about what Beethoven would say, I wasn't worried about what ANYBODY would say, I was just nose in book, ears in ocean, relating with all of my imagination to musically speak to one person in particular. It was a rather singular experience, and I want to find that space, again, whenever I play. I mean, I usually pay close attention to what I am trying to "say" whenever I play something, but distractions of one kind or another usually crop up. The experience of "saying something" to someone in particular, who is physically present, wanting to wrap them in a comforting blanket of sound, I think that is the difference. [...] The most appreciated music is old-fashioned hymns...Amazing Grace, In the Garden, What a Friend we have in Jesus, Rock of Ages, I'll Fly Away, Will the Circle be Unbroken, etc.
The folks (including the staff) always love these, and sing along easily w/o lyrics sheets.
And hymns get the most thanks from all the people present: the residents, the staff, and visiting family members. EXCEPT, rocket88, one of the places where I play regularly, I play over the Sunday dinner hour, from 11 a.m. to 1 p.m. I consider that my role is to float pretty atmosphere music into the room at a volume such that people can hear each other talk. Over the last two years, I have put a fair number of very pretty religious arrangements under my belt, and one day I decided to play one, here. From a table not too far away from the piano (a nice Steinway L, BTW), I heard an acerbic comment, "Are we in church?" And yet, I know there are individuals who love that kind of stuff. It's funny, too, at this place. The piano is deep into the dining room, so I can see who comes in and who leaves. Because I've gotten to know some of the individuals over the last few years, I'll play certain things depending on who is in the room. There is one gal, Dot, who insists on "Over The Rainbow" every time I come. "It brings back so many memories," she says. "He plays it for me whenever he comes," she tells her friends. She says to me, "Did you bring it?" I say, "I never leave home without it!" I made her come up to the piano for it, today, just to see if she would. And she did. And at the same time she approached the piano, so did Harriet, an old friend of mine from church. Dot said, "He plays it for me whenever he comes." So, I played it. Then, got up from the bench to give Harriet a hug, and said to her, "I've got one for you today, too." "You do?," she said. "Yep. A nice arrangement of 'Lead Me, Lord.' Do you want a chair?" She looked at me like I was crazy, so I started in with her at my shoulder. Harriet is someone who, when she was coming to church on Sundays, and on those days when I was scheduled to play piano, would say, "There's something special about a man at the piano. I know women can play. But to me, there is just something about a man at the piano." LOL! Whatever *that* means! But I have lived off of that encouragement ever since she said it!... When I started that last paragraph, I had meant to say that, one time, staff had moved the piano just a little bit, and oriented it so that I could not see into the room. So, I had to turn on the bench to look into room to see who was there. As I would finish a piece, I'd turn to look into the room, and people would see me turn to look at them, and they'd applaud. LOL! They'd applaud in a different way than when the applause was spontaneous "No, no!," I thought to myself. "Stop applauding! I'm just taking attendance!" [...] 4) Cinnamonbear is a great source of repertoire! [...] That is because people keep giving me boxes of stuff from their basements and attics and piano benches. The other night, I went through my growing accumulation, again, because I had a request for something I knew I had, and found five new vintage pieces that make sense to me in a way that they did not, before. One of them is "Roses In The Rain," with a picture of a very young Frank Sinatra on the cover. It is my new favorite song. [...] 5) If you like a particular facility, but the piano is no good, then try to see if you can solve the problem by simply taking control of the situation with confidence: if the piano is out of tune, don't sound apologetic about it or indicate you're worried about the cost. Just inform them with a smile that you enjoyed your first day, glad to get a feel for their piano and residents, and just so they know, their tuner will need to be called this week; they have one, of course, yes? No? Well, no problem, you'll send over your tuner, then, it's your pleasure to arrange it. He'll give them the professional rate, of course. If the piano is really terrible and unfixable, well, offer to help them find a better piano--Craigslist is filled with perfectly serviceable pianos that are practically free. None that are mostly free are likely to be that great to play but if you're involved in helping them get a piano, you at least stand a better chance of ending up with one you can tolerate playing. This is beautifully stated, TS! At one place where I play and have tuned, I had let the pianos ripen. From a PM which I wrote a year ago: [...] The thing I wanted to share with you is this: Last week, I was playing at one of the "assisted living centers" where I play regularly. This is a setting called "sheltered care" for people with fairly profound Alzheimer's disease. You would love the piano! I tuned it last year, and at this point, it is deliciously out of tune! I have decided to leave it that way for two reasons: 1) tuning the piano is not only incredibly disruptive to the surrounding activity, and the surrounding activity is incredibly disruptive to the tuner and, 2) it sounds so good in it's out of tuneness--there are deep resonances and waviness happening in there that it just sounds so RIGHT![...] Only, when I went there to play last month (two years after I had tuned it), even the residents said, "It's out of tune." So, last week I tuned on my own dime (The Everett studio console on the Sheltered Care side, and the turn-of-the-century Cable grand on the Assisted Living side). I am currently writing a letter of explanation to the C.O.O. to ask her to include tunings in next year's budget. I'll share the letter as soon as its written. Tactful chiding it will be, I hope. In conclusion, I am still poking through my PMs to find a story I already wrote about the gal who always said to me, "You play like my mother. Did you know my mother?" If I can find it, I'll share "the day of healings." Otherwise, I'll leave it to your imagination. --Andy
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[...] -And yes, in some venues they do applaud Chopin. And every long rest. And in between movements. Or come up to the pianist mid-performance to have an urgent conversation. It's all fine. [...] Um. Yes. It really is all fine. Stopping for urgent conversations has caused me to learn how to make up endings in a hurry. Add the "2" to the root chord, and arpeggiate it up the scale. Then, go "bong" with the root note in the lowest bass. That'll work 9 times out of 10, if you can hold off the urgent conversation until the end of the phrase. --Andy
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Hello All, If you have given a performance at nursing homes/assisted living, I would appreciate your feedback as this is one of my personal goals not only to decrease my performance anxiety but as a small way of 'giving back' to the community.
I am a returning adult student/pianist with a decent skill level but will need to work on repertoire for this. My thoughts are about 30-45 minutes of older romantic pop music such as "Some Enchanted Evening", "On The Street Where You Live", etc. decently arranged for solo piano. You get the idea...
Any thoughts? Thanks in advance. Hey DP, don't forget about the "Council on Aging" places around the country too ... around the noon meal or earlier there's generally a pretty good crowd playing cards, dominoes, visiting. Check with the administrator. Yep, don't expect a tuned Bosendorfer awaiting, but who knows. I've had a few gals come up and ask about how to play by ear and resulted in hamming around about it later. You can't go wrong with the oldies, pop, hymns, blues, show tunes, accompanying, taking requests. Florida probably has one of these places in every small town and several in each city.
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You can't go wrong with the oldies, pop, hymns, blues, show tunes, accompanying, taking requests.
What elderly folk like can be as varied (well, almost) as what younger, 'hip' people - like we here in PW - like. And sometimes, one encounters a level of ignorance among some members of the staff which can border on astonishing, as I discovered on one of my stints in a nursing home. I started by playing a Chopin waltz (Op.70/1), when a young nurse bristled up to me to tell me not to play "concentration camp" music which would upset those survivors of the Nazi era. Whereupon, one of the residents touched her on the arm to tell her that she was Polish, and was one of those survivors, and that Chopin's music is her favorite, and isn't "concentration camp" music. Evidently, all that nurse knew about the war was from a certain movie...... She blushed with embarrassment, and left me alone after that, and I went on playing more Chopin . I would add, however, that I stay clear of playing overtly religious music like hymns, unless it's an occasion like a sing-a-long carol 'concert' where people knew in advance what it was going to be. (Chorale preludes by Bach - especially in Busoni arrangements - aren't in that category of course, as the tunes aren't known to the hoi polloi). Here in the UK, we have a significant population belonging to 'another' faith which isn't always tolerant of Christianity (or indeed, any other religion.....).
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re: Hoi Polloi
In english, this word phrase falls somewhere between pejorative and derogatory but I suspect you know that and I'm going to assume the best of you and imagine that you believe its use make you seem rather witty, clever and yes, sophisticated.
Why do I care? I have 3 family members in assisted living. It's long hours and poor paying work given how degrading some of the tasks are and how often the staff are treated like lesser beings by management, family members and the residents themselves. They don't deserve your derision because they haven't had the the time, inclination or ability to get up to speed on the intricacies of eurocentric, western art music.
Sorry to harsh the buzz in an otherwise valuable thread but I felt it needed to be said.
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I don't mean to sound cynical, but leave it to the internet to make long discussion out of something rather simple! In my view of the scale of difficulty of an audience - where most appreciative/least critical would be a friendly untainted indigenous tribe; and least appreciative/most critical would be something like a Parisian concert hall, a retirement home is about as close as you're going to get to the first without suffering from some difficult travel and malarial threats. I did it as the OP is suggesting they want to, to deal with performing in public. I'm not as versatile enough to play popular music titles on command though, and my repertoire of Mompou, Martucci and Satie didn't exactly arouse much reaction other than polite applause out of them. In fact quite a few fell asleep. But I made one close friend out of the deal, a gentle man who lived for music, and that was enough for me. I went back a second time armed to the teeth with Hoagy Carmichael tunes. That went over a little better. But either way, they all appreciated my taking the time to come and play for them. It's really as simple as that.
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Maple Leaf Rag. Dont matter how well you play it. They'll love it.
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Re: hoi polloi:
I sympathize with the fear of real and unintended slights upon residents and caregivers in long term care facilities. My wife and I are both caregivers. We children are shackled by the pleas of and pledges to our parents to "Never send us to a nursing home." Yet (contrary to the pledge) we had to place one parent in a nursing home, and we continue to pay dearly for long term care insurance for another parent, hoping never to have to use it. Both of our fathers died at home, as they preferred. How did long term care for the elderly acquire a reputation similar to penal incarceration in the richest country in the world?
My thanks to dogperson et al, for helping to make life in post-home venues more pleasant, and I pledge to follow suit as a musician.
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I've played at nursing homes. I simply performed the standard classical repertoire (talking about each piece before playing it), and people loved it. As with most audiences, I've found that nursing home audiences enjoy fast passages above all else.
Recent Repertoire: Liszt: Concerto #1 in Eb https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1dY9Qw8Z7aoBach: Partita #2 in c minor Beethoven: Sonata #23 in f minor, Opus 57 ("Appassionata") Chopin: Etudes Opus 25 #6,9,10,11,12 Prokofiev: Sonata #3 in a minor Suggestion diabolique
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My thanks to all of you for your wonderful stories and advice. I could have easily done this when I was 16, but with over 40 years of no piano, flexibility in repertoire will take time.. but I'll get there. In the interim, I'll just start with something and take suggestions for future performances. My goal is Oct to make it happen and then keep up some cycle.... originally I am thinking multiple care centers during a period of time. There are quite a number even though I am not in a highly populated area of Florida.
There are many of you that commit regularly to 'giving back' to your communities. Wouldn't it be great if we could make this a global campaign such as 'spread the joy of music in November?'... teachers, beginners and accomplished pianists committing to one 'gift of music' during the month??
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Giving back? I'm sorry but if ever been to some of these places the residents are as sharp, sophisticated, and many a times cynical as much as we are. We are not really giving back in any way by playing piano music there. Unless you're a professional who plays without a fee. They know you're there for mainly your own enjoyment of playing your instrument so they'll play along and smile and will enjoy the fact you play and they really do. But don't think you're giving back in any way. If you like give back by providing transportation to them weekly ( lot of them tell me this ) to their local church but can't make it due to children farther away or it isn't provided. Or in some time in the form of some real time spent assisting or some donations monetary or another form. But they know why you're there playing. It isn't giving back. It is more like they're giving to you to allow you to play when lot of them just want some peace and quiet or talk amongst themselves. Yes, again they do enjoy you. They will come up and spend time talking to you. But it is like you going over to a hotel lobby play some tune and some passerbys come by excited and talk to you and clap. If you say " hey I'm giving back to you guys" uh sorry. You're not. It is usually the same way at the assisted centers too
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Giving back? I'm sorry but if ever been to some of these places the residents are as sharp, sophisticated, and many a times cynical as much as we are. We are not really giving back in any way by playing piano music there. Unless you're a professional who plays without a fee. They know you're there for mainly your own enjoyment of playing your instrument so they'll play along and smile and will enjoy the fact you play and they really do. But don't think you're giving back in any way. If you like give back by providing transportation to them weekly ( lot of them tell me this ) to their local church but can't make it due to children farther away or it isn't provided. Or in some time in the form of some real time spent assisting or some donations monetary or another form. But they know why you're there playing. It isn't giving back. It is more like they're giving to you to allow you to play when lot of them just want some peace and quiet or talk amongst themselves. Yes, again they do enjoy you. They will come up and spend time talking to you. But it is like you going over to a hotel lobby play some tune and some passerbys come by excited and talk to you and clap. If you say " hey I'm giving back to you guys" uh sorry. You're not. It is usually the same way at the assisted centers too Hey DC, your post may be telling waay more about the day you're having than about many people found in nursing homes, etc. ...
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Hm. I always have some kind of volunteer work going. It's like, for me, part of being a good citizen. But when I started playing for assisted living/memory care I *was* looking for a two-way street - one where I could scratch my "play out" itch and get experience and simultaneously be a good citizen And I get paid at a couple of places, and don't at a couple of others. But here's what I think - Your motive for playing has nothing to do with whether or not the residents are "getting some back". So if *you* are playing strictly for money, or strictly for experience, or strictly for ego, some of them (and the staff) may be "getting something back". And some may not be. You really have no control over that. Just as they have no control over your motive. *Any* human activity is a two-way street, eh? You give and you get, you get and you give. If your motive includes absolutely no idea of giving you may or may not have that come thru in such a way in your presentation that you won't get asked back Or, your presentation may still be such that the music is wonderful and your remove from the "giving" isn't offensive, and some of them get something back and they'll want you to return. You just do what you do, and some of us end up with funny stories, or touching stories, or friends, or whatever, along with the internal satisfaction of whatever the "playing out" does for us, and some of us with a lesser mix of those, and some of us with only the internal satisfaction. Extrovert, introvert, whatever. It's all good.
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A very wise and correct post, Cathy. Thanks.
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We are not really giving back in any way by playing piano music there. Unless you're a professional who plays without a fee. They know you're there for mainly your own enjoyment of playing your instrument I never think of it as 'giving back' (which implies that they've already given you something), but if we're going to do it, be professional about it. It's not a practice session, nor a try-out for a piece-in-progress. Be well-prepared and practice properly what you're planning to play - the same way as you'd practice for a real concert (even if your audience might be more forgiving of your mistakes....). And remember you're a guest there, so don't outstay your welcome and don't play music they don't like - but don't play stuff you don't like either, as that will come across to your audience. (If in doubt, avoid noisy stuff - while one or two might like rock n' roll, others might only want to hear nice inoffensive tunes. ). Ask the person in charge about what the residents' tastes in music are. In my case, I was playing in a nursing home, so I spoke to the Matron (who originally invited me to play when I visited in my professional capacity, and asked if the piano got played), which was when I discovered about the religious affiliations of a few of the patients and the staff. There was very little stimulation other than TV, and I found that several perked up when I played, and asked me to keep playing even when I'd run out of music. If you like give back by providing transportation to them weekly ( lot of them tell me this ) to their local church but can't make it due to children farther away or it isn't provided. I don't know what it's like in the USA, but you can't provide an unlicensed taxi (or bus) service to people in the UK. Of course, you'll be welcome to pay the home (or individuals) to get their own taxis for their residents......
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I agree that for some(many?)performing at a nursing home is at least partially an ego thing. But I think it's also true that for most performing musicians or artists or dancers etc. it's often an ego thing. I am speaking from personal experience and I mostly stopped playing when I realized this.
One funny story about playing at a senior center. One time when I played there a woman who was known to often say horrible things to people started saying VERY loudly "Why do they let him play? He's so terrible! etc." The next time I played the same woman was there, and I started discussing with some friends what and how soon she would start making comments. While I'm playing she walks up to the piano and I'm expecting the worst. But she says "I love a man who can play the piano!"
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We are not really giving back in any way by playing piano music there. Unless you're a professional who plays without a fee. They know you're there for mainly your own enjoyment of playing your instrument I never think of it as 'giving back' (which implies that they've already given you something), but if we're going to do it, be professional about it. It's not a practice session, nor a try-out for a piece-in-progress. Be well-prepared and practice properly what you're planning to play - the same way as you'd practice for a real concert (even if your audience might be more forgiving of your mistakes....). And remember you're a guest there, so don't outstay your welcome and don't play music they don't like - but don't play stuff you don't like either, as that will come across to your audience. (If in doubt, avoid noisy stuff - while one or two might like rock n' roll, others might only want to hear nice inoffensive tunes. ). Ask the person in charge about what the residents' tastes in music are. In my case, I was playing in a nursing home, so I spoke to the Matron (who originally invited me to play when I visited in my professional capacity, and asked if the piano got played), which was when I discovered about the religious affiliations of a few of the patients and the staff. There was very little stimulation other than TV, and I found that several perked up when I played, and asked me to keep playing even when I'd run out of music. Thanks that was my point. It is fine and dandy to play there and all that, and most of them will enjoy and welcome you. but never think or say as if this was to give back to them. I was replying to the post prior. Just be frank about your reason there, usually it is ego. You want to play and show your talent or music you love. Nothing wrong with that. just dont label it as youre some philanthropist . also I agree with you as well on the second point. You stick around and visit more often you get attuned to the residents and know about them a whole lot. This is exactly why I set up a recital once in a while at the place I go weekly (really depends on where i am at with a pieces or my classmates scheduels too) as I serve at church service they have every friday and for the past two years have gotten to know many of the residents. and their quirks. Only reason why I would play there is bc they know i love piano and kept begging me to do something for them once in awhile. I wish I was professional to play.
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Giving back? I'm sorry but if ever been to some of these places the residents are as sharp, sophisticated, and many a times cynical as much as we are. We are not really giving back in any way by playing piano music there. Unless you're a professional who plays without a fee. They know you're there for mainly your own enjoyment of playing your instrument so they'll play along and smile and will enjoy the fact you play and they really do. But don't think you're giving back in any way. If you like give back by providing transportation to them weekly ( lot of them tell me this ) to their local church but can't make it due to children farther away or it isn't provided. Or in some time in the form of some real time spent assisting or some donations monetary or another form. But they know why you're there playing. It isn't giving back. It is more like they're giving to you to allow you to play when lot of them just want some peace and quiet or talk amongst themselves. Yes, again they do enjoy you. They will come up and spend time talking to you. But it is like you going over to a hotel lobby play some tune and some passerbys come by excited and talk to you and clap. If you say " hey I'm giving back to you guys" uh sorry. You're not. It is usually the same way at the assisted centers too Hey DC, your post may be telling waay more about the day you're having than about many people found in nursing homes, etc. ... Well, you may be right. However , this is my experience I have had after some time engaging with them. well, fwiw, the one I go to . I am sure they are all different.
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Hey DC, you're a good guy it just sounded more like you were having a day like I sometimes have ... I probably have more of those kind of days than you . I never think of it as 'giving back' (which implies that they've already given you something) Here's kinda the way I look at it ... while they may not have given us something, they've given 80+ years of life something and probably a lot of that stuff was good. Around here there's a picture in the paper nearly every Christmas of youngsters singing for people who may not be around much longer. The kids may not fully understand yet what they may be giving, half may not be able to sing all that good yet, none probably have ever thought about whether being able to listen and enjoy music is a gift itself ... who cares whether they sing great, they're down there singing anyway and doing someone in there some good.
Rerun "Seat of the pants piano player" DMD
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The kids may not fully understand yet what they may be giving, half may not be able to sing all that good yet, none probably have ever thought about whether being able to listen and enjoy music is a gift itself ... who cares whether they sing great, they're down there singing anyway and doing someone in there some good.
It would be a truly hard and unfeeling man who isn't charmed by the singing of children, but adult performers shouldn't expect the same indulgence. Would you want to listen to an adult chorus singing carols at Christmas in a shopping mall if they were out of tune, even though singing in unison? Professional performers get direct feedback pretty quickly (audiences dwindle, critics sharpen their pencils....) but it's easy for us amateurs to fool ourselves into thinking that our playing is always appreciated - after all, we're giving of our time and expertise for free, aren't we? If we realize that instead of us doing the people in the homes a favor, it's they who are doing us a favor by giving their attention and allowing us to use their piano (not to mention giving us an ego boost, as has already been mentioned ), we'd have a better sense of perspective, and ensure that we're fully prepared and well-practised, and willing to adapt to their preferences where possible.....(and if not possible, at least meet them more than halfway, or else give it up altogether). When I play on public pianos in hotel lobbies, ships, train stations etc, I don't care whether passers-by like my music or my playing - after all, they don't have to stay and listen (though it's always a boost to my ego if people hang around to listen, and applaud afterwards ), but I only play for specific audiences if invited - as I'm currently doing in a hall where I attend for monthly meetings, and on an occasional basis in the nursing home. As long as they want me to keep coming, I'll do so (and keep my ego boosted ), but if I sense that they're no longer looking forward to hearing me play, I'll stop. A captive audience is great, but only if you're really wanted.....
If music be the food of love, play on!
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