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I'm not sure the model of the Yamaha but it's around 7 years old. A relative has one and I really liked it; well, have no experience with other pianos.

I have a Casio cdp120 and it's pretty terrible to compared to theirs. How much better or the same are the newer digitals?

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The CDP120 is a good value low-entry level model. Almost any newer DP, including PX150 entry from Casio will be more rewarding. Yamaha have moved on some with their Clavinovas, but Roland, Kawai and Casio have equivalent competing models. The main areas of improvement are keyboard and sound, of course.

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It depends on the model. 7 years ago Yamaha were producing the CLP 300 series, and it may have just been the tail end of the CLP 200 series at that time as well, but I think by then the 200 series had been phased out. Either way, if it's a 270 or a 370, and certainly if it's a 280 or 380, they will certainly be better than a better piano than the current Casio entry level.

Even the CLP-170 may be better than the entry level Casio, and there were a couple of outstanding models before that, like the CLP 990, but lower than that, the Casio would start to compete on the technology of the sound, and the action response.

Digital piano moves on quickly, but not that quickly. In 1986 when the first Rolands came out with SA Synthesis (the first to really respond like a piano), that technology powered their pianos until 1990, when they released an updated 'Advanced SA Synthesis'. Advanced SA took them to 1994 when they implemented 64-voice sampling, and that lasted them up until about 2008, being expanded to 128 note sometime between those years - probably in about 2005 or 6. Then they released the V-Piano in 2009, which was a physically modelled instrument, with finally the supernatural series being introduced in 2010. The Supernatural series took off where Advanced SA ended - they used sampling as their stop gap.

Yamaha used the same piano sound for something like 15 years between 1990 and 2005, and in fact it is still used as their piano 2 sound on some of their models, introducing new samples on only a few models in that time period as far as I know.


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It depends on the model. 7 years ago Yamaha were producing the CLP 300 series, and it may have just been the tail end of the CLP 200 series at that time as well, but I think by then the 200 series had been phased out. Either way, if it's a 270 or a 370, and certainly if it's a 280 or 380, they will certainly be better than a better piano than the current Casio entry level.

Even the CLP-170 may be better than the entry level Casio, and there were a couple of outstanding models before that, like the CLP 990, but lower than that, the Casio would start to compete on the technology of the sound, and the action response.

Digital piano moves on quickly, but not that quickly. In 1986 when the first Rolands came out with SA Synthesis (the first to really respond like a piano), that technology powered their pianos until 1990, when they released an updated 'Advanced SA Synthesis'. Advanced SA took them to 1994 when they implemented 64-voice sampling, and that lasted them up until about 2008, being expanded to 128 note sometime between those years - probably in about 2005 or 6. Then they released the V-Piano in 2009, which was a physically modelled instrument, with finally the supernatural series being introduced in 2010. The Supernatural series took off where Advanced SA ended - they used sampling as their stop gap.

Yamaha used the same piano sound for something like 15 years between 1990 and 2005, and in fact it is still used as their piano 2 sound on some of their models, introducing new samples on only a few models in that time period as far as I know.


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