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#2485770 - Yesterday at 05:41 PM Using In-ear monitors, what does it really sound like?
Morodiene Offline
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Registered: 04/06/07
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OK, so I've been using the Shure in-ear SE215 for playing my MOX with my church band. Another band member owns and Avoim unit that they are letting me borrow, and that's been working great.

So out of convenience, I've been using the in-ears at home with my MP11 as well. All is fine, but I recently got a great deal on some Sennheiser 598s. So I did a comparison on the MP11 with a classical piano arrangement that I'll be playing in a couple of weeks. With the Shures I had made huge adjustments to the sound on the MP11 because it really was sounding way too bright. So I plug in the Sennheisers and it's really dark and almost muffled. So I go back to the previous settings I had pre-Shure and voila, perfect!

So here's my dilemma: I want to use my MP11 because of the feel and I can practice on it, otherwise I'll be playing on a CP4 which will be unfamiliar and who knows what that will sound like to me. But I'll need to use my in-ears, which is almost intolerable to play without tweaking the MP11 sound. But then if I do that, the sound that will go to the mixing board will also be like that, and may be too dark as well.

The Avoim has minimal adjustments that I can do (Treble and Bass dials).

Any ideas on how I can make it sound good to me and to everyone else? I know the person doing the mixing is in charge of how it sounds to everyone, but, let's just say I'm not sure I trust their ears for a good classical piano sound. I certainly don't want to send out a signal that's been so highly modified to suit my tastes that it doesn't work or they need to tweak it a lot on their end.
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#2485774 - Yesterday at 05:52 PM Re: Using In-ear monitors, what does it really sound like? [Re: Morodiene]
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As I understand it, you're happy (or at least, whoever is responsible for the PA system is happy) with the default piano sound, but it doesn't quite sound right in your IEM's.

If it's strictly an analog mixer (no computer), your best bet is to find a parametric equalizer, run the piano signal directly to the mixer, and then get the output from the mixer straight into said EQ, which will feed your IEM's.

However, if you're happy with just those simple treble/Bass controls, they should be able to restore the sound the way they want it at their mixer.

#2485785 - Yesterday at 06:39 PM Re: Using In-ear monitors, what does it really sound like? [Re: Morodiene]
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I've never used the MP11 at my church, so I have no idea how it will sound there. smirk

It's a new mixer, so it's not analog. In fact, the worship leader can change things from the stage on his iPad, but we really do not have a lot of time to play around with this. So I'm trying to make this as simple as possible.
private piano/voice teacher FT

#2485921 - Today at 04:03 AM Re: Using In-ear monitors, what does it really sound like? [Re: Morodiene]
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Registered: 12/26/12
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Loc: Richmond, BC, Canada
Can you set the MP-11 up so there are two preset, stored EQ curves:

. . . One sounds good on the SE215's;

. . . One sounds good on the HD598's.

One or the other should be fine for feeding the PA. It won't take long to figure it out.

I was kicking myself for not buying a pair of on-sale HD598's. Maybe ignorance is bliss, in this case!
. Charles
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#2485927 - 41 minutes 27 seconds ago Re: Using In-ear monitors, what does it really sound like? [Re: Morodiene]
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Registered: 11/23/10
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Loc: Melbourne, Australia
I'd get better in-ear monitors. I'm sure there are models out there that have a frequency response closer to your Sennheisers. You can go off frequency curves, or maybe you can find a place that allows you to try them with disposable rubbers or something. Not sure about that part of it.


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