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#2507467 - 02/05/16 06:39 AM Blog post on Paul Bley and Pierre Boulez
Mark Polishook Offline
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#2507752 - 02/05/16 10:59 PM Re: Blog post on Paul Bley and Pierre Boulez [Re: Mark Polishook]
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Interesting stuff. And it got me looking at Paul Bley's often cited "All The Things You Are". Actually it got me looking at listening to it. It's on my list.

Thanks Mark.

#2507921 - 02/06/16 12:23 PM Re: Blog post on Paul Bley and Pierre Boulez [Re: Mark Polishook]
Mark Polishook Offline
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That ATTYA I one of the amazing miracles in jazz ... There's a vid of it in my blog post for those who are wondering where to find it ...


#2508019 - 02/06/16 05:36 PM Re: Blog post on Paul Bley and Pierre Boulez [Re: Mark Polishook]
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Actually, I should mention some of the things the pianodao.com link above have. In case someone isn't curious enough to click. I'm listening to "All the Things..." as I type this.

I love a good juxtaposition. I actually have a juxtaposition theory: you can get away with playing anything if you sandwich it between just the right other two things.

This is an attempt at a partial description:

There's a sample of something from Mahler Symphony#2
Berrio Sinfonia
Santa Claus Is Coming to Town - Paul Bley, Charles Mingus and Art Blakey
Santa Claus Is Coming to Town - Bill Evans - I think with maybe a scrolling transcription
Ornette Coleman At the Hillcrest 1958
Curtis Roads interview - he wrote early computer music with punch cards in a hopper
a Yamaha DX7 demo
and some other youTube things. A very interesting sampler. I'll be clicking through much of it.

#2508136 - 02/07/16 06:10 AM Re: Blog post on Paul Bley and Pierre Boulez [Re: Mark Polishook]
Mark Polishook Offline
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Thanks for mentioning all of that stuff! And I agree with your theory. Sandwich the one thing between the other two right things and all three things canb work.

I appreciate you going through those links and connecting what you find. That's what I experienced as I put them together. And the very cool thing is we all connect those dots (links) differently.

Anyway, since you've now listed many of the dots for those who are included they live at: http://pianodao.com/2016/01/25/iconoclasts-shibboleths-paul-bley-and-pierre-boulez/

Where else can you see a scrolling transcription of Bill Evans playing Santa Claus To Town next to a YouTube clip of Paul Bley and Charles Mingus discussing (and then playing) chord changes to that tune along with all the other stuff you mention including a DX7 demo and more!

It's possible there's shameless self-promotion in naming and explaining all above that you've mentioned, since it is all from my blog post. But then again none of us are going to be worse off if we hear the scherzo from Mahler's second symphony followed by Luciano Berio's re-mix of it (in days when remixing was done the old fashioned way without digital technology!) not to mention Luciano Berio is THAT Berio from the family that produces olive oil,

And it is true as explained at PianoDao that Pierre Boulez was detained (in post 9/11 days) by Swiss police in a five-star hotel. Because he advocated blowing up opera houses as the best way to move the art forward! That is inflammatory and explosive and the Swiss police called him on it! You truly can't make this stuff up! Looking forward to your further thoughts, good and bad, as you go through those links!

And one more for the hopper, a recording of Conlon Nancarrow's first study for player piano - recorded in this clip on a Bosendorfer with a player piano mechanism built it. That's a whole different story that's still strangely related to Boulez and Bley:

Thanks again, very much, for posting those different links and taking the time to listen ...



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