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#2510147 - 02/13/16 12:29 PM Headphones for Digital Piano
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Hello guys,

I'm new here and I wanted to which headphones
are best for my Yamaha CLP-575. I'd also like
to use these headphones for listening to music (iPhone) etc.
My budget is around €400 which is about 450 dollar.
I'll also consider those above my budget so please share them.

Any advice?

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#2510151 - 02/13/16 12:46 PM Re: Headphones for Digital Piano [Re: moderhuske]
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A lot of us here like the Sennheiser HD 598.

Headphones are personal. It's always better to live with them for a week or two before you buy them, if that's possible.
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#2510163 - 02/13/16 01:36 PM Re: Headphones for Digital Piano [Re: Dave Horne]
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Thank you, I'm currently considering the new Sennheiser Momentum 2.0 over ear. I've read a lot of reviews, so I'm not doubting the sound quality for normal use. Wondering if anyone has used it for their digital piano? I'm not talking about the first Sennheiser Momentum, I've read those are not the best for digital piano's.

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#2510177 - 02/13/16 02:18 PM Re: Headphones for Digital Piano [Re: Dave Horne]
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Originally Posted By Dave Horne
A lot of us here like the Sennheiser HD 598.


I'd second this recommendation. Very comfortable for long periods. Easy to drive (will play loud with run-of-the-mill headphone amps such as those in digital pianos and iPhones). I don't think you need to spend as much as you think. The Senn HD-598s provide a very good price/performance/comfort benchmark that is hard to beat for your purposes.
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#2510185 - 02/13/16 02:49 PM Re: Headphones for Digital Piano [Re: moderhuske]
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I didn't like the Senns. I do like Beyers. Lots of people here recommend AKGs.

But what should these opinions mean to you? NOTHING.

Try 'em, like 'em or dislike 'em, and buy what you like.
Recommendations don't mean much.

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#2510193 - 02/13/16 03:06 PM Re: Headphones for Digital Piano [Re: moderhuske]
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I have an AKG K702 on my CLP150. It is fine, BUT, I have to dial the volume at 100% to use them: they are not easy to drive. (I have tried a cheap headphone amp, Behringer MA400... But it is unusefull. I guess it is sold as a LINE-to-easy-to-drive-headphone and I should pay 100€ min. for a real amp).
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#2510233 - 02/13/16 05:28 PM Re: Headphones for Digital Piano [Re: moderhuske]
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I like the fairly inexpensive Grado SR-60s. They're open ear, so they won't be completely quiet (and never use them with a mic sending the signal back to the headphones), but you'll still be able to hear room around you. For a lighter, more work-out friendly over the ear headphone, I like the Koss Porta-pros.

I have tried much more expensive ones from a number of brands, especially in my audio engineering days, but for personal use I rather like the not-too-costly Grados (and Kosses for listening while being active).

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#2510256 - 02/13/16 06:46 PM Re: Headphones for Digital Piano [Re: moderhuske]
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Saying the budget is not enough.
Open, Semi-Open, Closed?
On-Ear, Over-Ear?
Sound signature: flat, warm, bass-heavy, piercing highs, etc?

We can suggest you anything but that doesn't mean you will be satisfied with the choice.
The best thing you can do is to try different pairs if you have the chance.



I stick with cheap stuff...

I have a pair of Superlux HD-681 EVO, price around 30-40€. Bassy, warm sounding, semi-open headphones. I didn't really want this sound signature (although I saw the graphs). On a forum there were people talking about how balanced they were... in another almost everyone pointed out the bass emphasis. A bit of simple mods and here comes the treble. Overall they do sound good, but I would suggest these for the bassheads and those who like a warm sound signature.

The new HD-662 EVO are the closed version at the same price; apparently they're better than the 681... after some very easy mods they are very good.
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#2510289 - 02/13/16 08:43 PM Re: Headphones for Digital Piano [Re: moderhuske]
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Although they're ridiculously cheap compared to your budget, I'm also a happy owner of the Superlux HD-681 EVO mentioned above (priced at 29 euros / 33$). People with 200-300 euros headphones have listened to them and concluded they sound surprisingly good for the price.
I also feel they have a dark sound, unfortunately bought them based on reviews and a preference for the style/package (detachable cables, velour pads), only having tried other similar models from Superlux and Samson (same stuff) but with different sound characteristics. With a little modding they become a bit more open and balanced, but I still plan on getting the Samson SR-850 as well, which sound a lot more open and better balanced, better suited for classical, jazz and playing the piano.
Both are semi-open and are relatively easy to drive so the can be used with a phone as well.
If you're willing to experiment, you might discover these will easily please you, before spending a couple of times more than this.
Wish I could've tried some Grados as well, since I keep hearing about them, but they're not easy to come by in this part of the world, and they still cost 2-3 times more even for their cheapest offerings.

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#2510346 - 02/14/16 03:36 AM Re: Headphones for Digital Piano [Re: moderhuske]
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After starting with 30-40 EUR Sennheiser HD 205, I switched to Sennheiser HD 598 on Christmas. I did not test much. They were recommended here and they were on sale just before Christmas and that sealed it. They are a whole other dimension than the HD 205. I am really happy that I have them.

Now I know that the HD 205 actually do DPs a disservice, they add "brilliance" in the middle to high end that does not help.

So if you want to compare, it is quite important that you compare on DPs or at least with music created on DPs I think. So if you can not test them at home, bring a recording of something that you played at home.
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#2510353 - 02/14/16 04:38 AM Re: Headphones for Digital Piano [Re: moderhuske]
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Having gone through a lot of headphones in my time all I can really say is that beyond the 200-300€ range the returns start to diminish quite rapidly. When you get to the high-end range you are paying as much for the casing, build quality (like all metal finishing etc.) and brand as for the actual sound. That being said I currently run the Sennheiser HD-800s on my piano, which go well into audiophile territory. The main reason for this is build quality and comfort rather than sound quality. I've owned Grado RS-1s and really cannot wear any Grado phones for long periods. I've also had Audeze LCD-2s which I can wear for 15 minutes max before getting a headache. Beyond this I've had top of the range models from Denon, AKG and Sennheiser. Out of all these I personally prefer the Sennheiser sound for classical music, but it cannot be stated enough that this is a personal choice. And really having owned HD-650s for years I do prefer the 800s beyond them. A more "budget" option could be the HD-700 which can be had for 400-500 euros, but I have not tried them personally.

Beyond speculation there is one actual budget headphone that I would like to add to this list as a recommendation: Sennheiser HD-25s. They can be had for around 100 euros and are a closed design originally meant for DJing. I have a pair on my computer and have always liked the sound.


Edited by Giin (02/14/16 04:39 AM)

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#2510354 - 02/14/16 04:39 AM Re: Headphones for Digital Piano [Re: moderhuske]
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One feature that has nothing to do with sound but usually appears with the more expensive models - cables that can be easily removed and replaced.

I've accidentally destroyed headphones in the past by catching the cable on something which either broke the cable or messed up the connection. I've tried to solder headphone cable and it's not easy.

All my headphones now have cables that can be easily removed or simply pop out if the cable catches on something. It would be great if all headphones had that feature.
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#2510366 - 02/14/16 05:15 AM Re: Headphones for Digital Piano [Re: moderhuske]
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Go for a headphone with adjustable volume.

I own a Beyerdynamic DT 880, one of the best headphones there is (use it since many years with my Hifi eq) - but it turned out it didn't work well with my (recently purchased) Clavinova; something with too many Ohms, resulting in too low volume on the headphone.

That's why I decided to go for a headphone with adjustable volume - so you can make the volume with headphone the same as the volume without. That's my recommendation.

By the way, I ended up with a very cheap Konig Onstage NRG100. It has adjustable volume and works sufficiently with the Clavinova, but it's clearly not as comfortable and good sounding as the Beyerdynamic.

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#2510408 - 02/14/16 10:34 AM Re: Headphones for Digital Piano [Re: moderhuske]
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Dave, that's why I went with the untested HD681 Evo (30 euros), based on reviews, rather than the SR850 which I tested. It is very convenient to have two detachable cables in the package (1m and 3m long).

Lemon, for the DT 880 you'd normally buy a headphone amp, which will generally have adjustable volume. Cheap headphones with adjustable volume aren't that great. I wouldn't make it a criteria for choosing headphones.
Also, a rather convenient feature of Rolands (not sure about other manufacturers) is the digital volume control which makes it possible to set the speaker volume at one level and the headphone volume at another, thus having separate volume settings for the two, which are remembered by the piano and automatically change any time you connect/disconnect your headphones.

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#2510414 - 02/14/16 10:46 AM Re: Headphones for Digital Piano [Re: mcoll]
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Originally Posted By mcoll
Lemon, for the DT 880 you'd normally buy a headphone amp


But this has a cost (100$ min ? 200$ ?) and should be included in the criteria. I have tried the Behringer MA400 but it has not enough power for my ATK K702.
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#2510424 - 02/14/16 11:00 AM Re: Headphones for Digital Piano [Re: moderhuske]
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Of course it does, but that's what you get when you really want break the bank for the sake of quality.
Fortunately, I have no such problems and I'm very pleased with what I get out of my (surprisingly) low-cost headphones. And I'm not the only one who says it. I've read very many opinions that state the same.
Certainly, the mid to high range offers from top manufacturers are better, but the difference isn't big enough to justify the many-times higher price for me.

I encourage anybody who comes across them to give them a try, they do surprise.


Edited by mcoll (02/14/16 11:01 AM)

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#2510466 - 02/14/16 12:25 PM Re: Headphones for Digital Piano [Re: moderhuske]
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First off, thank you all for your reactions.

@f3r: You're right, I haven't given you much info although
regarding your options, the only thing I really need is for
the headphones to be over-ear. My ears are too big for on-ear
(I've tried them) which results to being oncomfortable for long use.

I appreciate all the recommendations, especially the low-budget ones.
What makes it hard is the fact that I'm not going to buy these headphones
for 1 purpose only. As much as they need to sound great on my piano, they
also need to be awesome for listening to music. And I listen to all kinds of
music (Classic, Film scores, Rock, Rap, Pop, Dance). My brother owns a B&W P7
and they sound phenomenal, but on the piano, it needs the volume to be put on
90-100%.

Regarding my budget, it's really not an issue. I'd be more than happy to pay
extra for the building quality. I don't like headphones made from rubbish plastic.
I value headphones a lot. I really do.

Again thank you all and I hope I don't sound too picky xD.

EDIT: There are stores nearby who offer the HD 598. I'll definitely check them out.


Edited by moderhuske (02/14/16 01:05 PM)

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#2510522 - 02/14/16 02:56 PM Re: Headphones for Digital Piano [Re: moderhuske]
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I've read some really good things about the ATH-M50x, which is around $150. Perhaps someone who has tried this pair could comment? I think these are good for everyday use as well, as they are low impedance headphones that can be used without an amp.

I'm thinking of maybe getting that pair but will definitely check out the others that are recommended here.

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#2510745 - 02/15/16 06:36 AM Re: Headphones for Digital Piano [Re: joshjackson]
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Originally Posted By joshjackson
I've read some really good things about the ATH-M50x, which is around $150. Perhaps someone who has tried this pair could comment? I think these are good for everyday use as well, as they are low impedance headphones that can be used without an amp.

I'm thinking of maybe getting that pair but will definitely check out the others that are recommended here.


I have the ATH-M50 (predecessor to M50x).
They are great headphones, versatile for everything.
I use them for my digital piano now, and they are really good for that.

I also have the AKG K550 that I use at work. I think they might be a bit better suited for diigital pianos and I am thinking about getting an other pair of those for my DP (and keep my ATH-M50 for my computer, so I don't need to take them back and forth between rooms).

The AKG K550 give a bit more experience like listening to speakers. In my opinion they are better suited for classical and jazz, while the ATH-M50 are better suited for Hip-hop and electronic music, since they have a bit more "oomph" and sound closer.

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#2510966 - 02/15/16 04:01 PM Re: Headphones for Digital Piano [Re: moderhuske]
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So I've bought the HD 598 and I absolutely love the sound. The store said that I could return the headphones if I didn't like the sound
on the piano. I can tell you the sound on the piano is great altough it makes a little noise while playing bass notes or very high notes on high volume (75-85%). Could this be because the headphone is new and need warm up? Does anyone have experience with this?


Edited by moderhuske (02/15/16 04:02 PM)

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#2510988 - 02/15/16 04:54 PM Re: Headphones for Digital Piano [Re: moderhuske]
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How would you describe the noise? I've not heard of any kind of noise going away after headphones are broken in. The sound quality will change somewhat, sure, and usually improve, but I don't know of a noise emanating from the headphones themselves related to "break in." If that's what you're hearing my guess would be that the drivers/headphones themselves may be vibrating/rattling a bit from the volume. Is it a rattle? If that's the case, please turn down the volume. (And in general, you have to be careful with headphones to not listen to them loudly enough to cause long term hearing loss, and that's especially true when using with live instruments). If it's not a rattle you may be hearing something from the piano you hadn't noticed before, such as the intentional damper pedal noise.


Edited by TimPoe (02/15/16 04:55 PM)

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#2511308 - 02/16/16 12:20 PM Re: Headphones for Digital Piano [Re: Tim P]
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Originally Posted By TimPoe
How would you describe the noise? I've not heard of any kind of noise going away after headphones are broken in. The sound quality will change somewhat, sure, and usually improve, but I don't know of a noise emanating from the headphones themselves related to "break in." If that's what you're hearing my guess would be that the drivers/headphones themselves may be vibrating/rattling a bit from the volume. Is it a rattle? If that's the case, please turn down the volume. (And in general, you have to be careful with headphones to not listen to them loudly enough to cause long term hearing loss, and that's especially true when using with live instruments). If it's not a rattle you may be hearing something from the piano you hadn't noticed before, such as the intentional damper pedal noise.


It's a rattle noise yes, but only if I play like the bass notes or very high notes. I'll try and turn down the volume a bit.

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#2511325 - 02/16/16 12:56 PM Re: Headphones for Digital Piano [Re: moderhuske]
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Yeah, that sounds like the low frequency is causing the drivers to rattle. Turning down should help. That's probably due to the design as well; some headphones rattle at low frequencies. I'm not sure why high notes would cause any noise, though. I think a lot of manufacturers don't really design many models with live instrument use in mind.


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#2511336 - 02/16/16 01:16 PM Re: Headphones for Digital Piano [Re: moderhuske]
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Originally Posted By moderhuske
So I've bought the HD 598 and I absolutely love the sound. The store said that I could return the headphones if I didn't like the sound
on the piano. I can tell you the sound on the piano is great altough it makes a little noise while playing bass notes or very high notes on high volume (75-85%). Could this be because the headphone is new and need warm up? Does anyone have experience with this?


I use the HD 598 every day on my N3; I practice only with headphones. I've never encountered the problem that you've described. If the store has another pair of the HD 598 headphones, ask if you can try another set.

Also, headphones do not need to be 'warmed up' or 'broken in'. That's nonsense promulgated by golden ears who always seem to fail double blind listening tests. smile
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#2511351 - 02/16/16 01:52 PM Re: Headphones for Digital Piano [Re: Dave Horne]
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Originally Posted By Dave Horne
Originally Posted By moderhuske
So I've bought the HD 598 and I absolutely love the sound. The store said that I could return the headphones if I didn't like the sound
on the piano. I can tell you the sound on the piano is great altough it makes a little noise while playing bass notes or very high notes on high volume (75-85%). Could this be because the headphone is new and need warm up? Does anyone have experience with this?


I use the HD 598 every day on my N3; I practice only with headphones. I've never encountered the problem that you've described. If the store has another pair of the HD 598 headphones, ask if you can try another set.

Also, headphones do not need to be 'warmed up' or 'broken in'. That's nonsense promulgated by golden ears who always seem to fail double blind listening tests. smile


I do feel a need to say that break in is a thing, although I've noticed with speakers more than headphones. I thought it was kind of a myth as well and don't think of myself as a snob; in fact I often cringe at many audiophile myths. For an example, I once earned a living as a mastering engineer, and the studio in which I worked got new near field monitors (the small bookshelf ones). I had helped select them and had been impressed with the demo set, but the new set sounded harsh and the frequency response was no where near good enough to use for mastering. In some frustration and at the owner's suggestion I isolated them (to not concern security/other businesses) and ran pink noise through them at a fairly high volume overnight. I didn't expect much or really any change, but the next day they sounded dramatically different and the frequency response changed quite a bit (and was usable). I came to like them so much I later bought a pair for home use. But I've really digressed from the thread's subject. (Edit: And as I said earlier it wouldn't involve a rattle).

In any case, the suggestion to try another set of headphones is a good idea. I Googled "low frequency rattle in hd 598 headphones" and did find some others having the issue. (And I've heard that happen with other headphones, especially in recording session use). I'm mainly concerned with how loud they are being played, though.


Edited by TimPoe (02/16/16 02:46 PM)

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#2511376 - 02/16/16 03:07 PM Re: Headphones for Digital Piano [Re: Dave Horne]
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Originally Posted By Dave Horne

Also, headphones do not need to be 'warmed up' or 'broken in'. That's nonsense promulgated by golden ears who always seem to fail double blind listening tests. smile


Not entirely, this is from a reputable source by the way.

http://www.tested.com/tech/accessories/459117-science-and-myth-burning-headphones/

Now I don't claim I could tell because

a) I never had a used and new of any model to compare side by side.

b) I don'think with owning just one and listening to it few days or weeks whether one can distinguish between getting use to a sound signature, versus it actually having changed over time.

I think also it depends on the headhone design, materials used etc, some designs are more prone to need break in. A lot of them don't need it AFAIK.

I had some grados which state in the manual of not over listening to them too loud for 1st x hours saying break in one was needed. but I did not notice them change. No way I am going to listen to the same tunes and test for that long to find I could even tell.

If I could tell at all, to feel more certain about it to be a valid blind test, I would need several of the same model new and used and swap them out and see.

I do believe whatever amount of break in there is, it probably very subtle at best in most all cases in how the sound is actually affected. Then, there may also be just very minor variations in the same model in some cases anyway. versus it being an actual break in issue.


I am very sceptical of people that say things like, oh, I think they are opening up a bit now after a few days, more likely, they are simply just getting used to the headphones sound signature instead.

Likely, it also true that if you really don't like a phone before break in, you'll not like it after with whatever very minor differences that may bring.


Edited by Alexander Borro (02/16/16 03:15 PM)
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#2511394 - 02/16/16 03:37 PM Re: Headphones for Digital Piano [Re: Alexander Borro]
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Seems funny people will part wi mucho shekels without being able to try em first. Mind you, folk do that with BMWs too. ..
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#2511407 - 02/16/16 04:02 PM Re: Headphones for Digital Piano [Re: moderhuske]
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From Audio-Technica's website:

SHOULD I ‘BURN IN’ MY HEADPHONES?

Headphones do not require ‘burning’ in, however over a period of time the sound of headphones naturally change by a very small margin.

To make these slight changes happen sooner you can play music through your headphones for 50+ hours at normal listening levels. This ‘burning in’ process can have the following effects:

A smoother frequency extension in the bass and treble
Better instrument separation
A more open sound stage


I've experienced changes in headphone and loudspeaker performance in exactly the ways mentioned by AT. But, unlike Dave, I do indeed have golden ears. There's none more golden than my lugs. So of course I hear it whereas most of you plebs just wouldn't grin
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#2511420 - 02/16/16 04:22 PM Re: Headphones for Digital Piano [Re: moderhuske]
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I also suggest you try another pair, because that behavior doesn't sound normal, especially not for expensive, quality headphones. Even in the case of my cheap headphones that I mentioned a couple of posts ago I don't encounter this.

And concerning the volume, it may be high, but I don't think it can be high enough to be the source of the problem. My Roland HP504 headphone output can't produce high enough a volume to make my headphones distort. Nor can my rather expensive DAC with software instruments. An they both get uncomfortably loud, without even playing fortissimo. Try a different pair of the same model. Yours may have a problem.

Now concerning the break-in talk.

The drivers are electro-mechanical if I may call them that. Moving parts at high speeds. Even from a logical perspective, it doesn't sound so unlikely that there is some break it. And to follow with some examples: the JBL LSR 305 which I have go through a 100 hour break in, in factory, at high volume, which besides doing some actual "break in", also acts out as a very efficient QC. I've read about other top manufacturers of speakers that include some break in period during the manufacturing process. The same may go for headphones.
Of course, the break in process may make a bigger difference in some cases rather than others, and I wouldn't expect spectacular 180 degree changes.
As for the getting used to the sound, certainly, it may also be a factor. But if you do an active break in, such as running pink noise for a couple of days, then you can actually compare how they sounded before and after as opposed to just listening to them for a couple of weeks, which can't make for an objective evaluation of said break in. For both my headphones and my brother's, there was a noticeable difference.

It's the same as getting old. If you see yourself in the mirror every day, you won't be able to tell, but if a high-school mate sees you at the 20-year reunion, it's a whole nother story.


LE. EssBrace posted as well meanwhile. He said it best, and Audio-Technica before him :P I've experienced similar impressions to those described by them.


Edited by mcoll (02/16/16 04:42 PM)

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#2511421 - 02/16/16 04:24 PM Re: Headphones for Digital Piano [Re: EssBrace]
Alexander Borro Offline
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Originally Posted By EssBrace
From Audio-Technica's website:

SHOULD I ‘BURN IN’ MY HEADPHONES?

Headphones do not require ‘burning’ in, however over a period of time the sound of headphones naturally change by a very small margin.

To make these slight changes happen sooner you can play music through your headphones for 50+ hours at normal listening levels. This ‘burning in’ process can have the following effects:

A smoother frequency extension in the bass and treble
Better instrument separation
A more open sound stage


I've experienced changes in headphone and loudspeaker performance in exactly the ways mentioned by AT. But, unlike Dave, I do indeed have golden ears. There's none more golden than my lugs. So of course I hear it whereas most of you plebs just wouldn't grin


Shame the audio technica ath m50x ( a phone I like myself and own for many traits I like) but, it does not to do soundstage well, its a very small stage indeed, and mine have been broken in looong ago, the stage is still tiny grin

You want sound stage and space in music, go open back, or shell out big cash for a closed that perhaps marginally improves that.

Good try Audio technica, but its doesn't change the reality of this phone. laugh


Edited by Alexander Borro (02/16/16 04:25 PM)
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