Hi,

You guys got it all so wrong-- the best piano in the world is the one I own!

Have a cheerful day,

--c5

Well actually, yes -- it does! Talk is cheap. Rational, well-thought-out arguments substantiated with facts are priceless.

So Ace, please tell us in which ways the techs think they are better -- I'm truly curious at this point. I do own an Estonia, but I'm really just a begining pianist -- who is not even in the league of the rest of you regarding knowledge of pianos or playing ability. (I bought the piano because I liked it the most and I'm very happy with it).

But as an engineer, I'm really intrigued about how mechanical devices work, and would really like to know in which (non-subjective) ways the independent techs think the AF is "better".

And if you "don't give a crap", as you suggested in a previous post, then why do you keep on posting? At this point in the discussion, if you can't substantiate your beliefs with at least some basic facts (after repeated, and not unreasonable requests), then I'd suggest you quit and go home quietly...

No, no no Cerulean, MY M&H RBB is theeeee best!

GP

You all have just got to realize that despite common misconception, all pianos are created equal. The differences in price points, tiers and quality claims can be chalked up to pure whim. There are no true better or worse pianos.. ..

The PramberStonia is equivalent to the SteinDorfer is equivalent to the KohlMaha.

Ignore any such ridiculous (& of course inaccurate ) ratings and take your pick. ...and defend your choice.

Oh lord, I aint' goin' here! Oh what the heck - My piano is the best and it's an Estonia. But then again, I'm sure CJQ's - former member of this forum - AF is the best. For him at least. Hope he's not lurking out there.

Oh, good grief.

Estonia Rules. :p

Interesting, I wonder if there is still an AF dealer in the Washington. It seems like I am the only authorized AF dealer in British Columbia, but unfortunately can't afford to have a music store. Only shipping directly from Germany...

Just a quick google search seems to suggest the the Fandrich & Sons operation is a dealer for AF in Washington state.

fwiw, this thread is over 5 years old...

Again, comparing pianos simply by *brands* isn't going to be particularly conclusive.
First off, pianos must be compared on equal size, otherwise the comparison is meaningless.
Secondly, there always is a variance between even identical models - when we have 2 of same size pianos we set them up a little differently to give buyers a bit of a choice.
Thirdly - and this can be the most important - it makes sometimes also sense to compare pianos by *cost*.
Estonia definitely has the price advantage between the 2 which could allow you to consider for one size bigger than the A.F.
While this seems a contradiction to what I said before, the question is "what's the best piano - for same $$" Basically this is how many people shop today.
Not easy - you're the only one to sort this out.
Both very fine pianos.....
Norbert

holy cow!! whats worse than ignorantly reading dozens of 5 year old posts??? or that it ends yesterday with an infomercial? there's got to be a way to alert clueless onlurkers like me to stale threads.

Gutenberg:

Only a guy with a lawyer brain like you could have sneaked this out....

Feeling like a fool now myself....

Norbert

Seattledd,

If you are looking to hear both an Estonia and August Förster I would recommend Classic Pianos in Bellevue as they have both brands there along with Schimmel,Vogel Petrof, Blüthner,Bösendorfer, and Steinway, American and Hamburg. They are the nicest piano store, Fred Riley helped me find the perfect piano for me, a Schimmel and I couldn't be happier with it. I can't say enough good things about people there.