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#2558236 - Yesterday at 05:00 PM Better DP Action for Learning?
slickvguy Offline
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Registered: 04/20/14
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Hi. Haven't posted in quite some time, but have been reading hundreds upon hundreds of posts. Thanks to everyone for their contributions!

Finally getting around to buying a new DP within the next week or so. Have been studying and testing for about 6 weeks.

Background: I am 53. Have played piano since I was about 14. Self-taught. Mainly pop/contemporary (a lot of Joe Jackson), a little jazz, improv, etc. Do not really play classical - but want to learn classical, more jazz, to get my mechanics going and UNLEARN some very bad habits (e.g. I play too hard and use the sustain pedal way too much).

I've narrowed it down to just a few models. Mainly the HP-603 and the HP-504 (or DP90Se). CLP-535/CLP-545 are in the hunt too. I've played the Kawais, but the CA67 is too expensive and a bit too "slow" for me (as great as the keys felt) and I prefer the higher-end ROland actions vs. the Kawai RHIII. DP will wind up being used primarily as a controller. VPC1 is out because I have no opportunity to play it and I wont' buy something w/o playing it. Bear in mind that I live in Canada, thus match-ups are different vs. Europe.

I find the PHA4 Premium/Concert action a bit harder and heavier versus the PHA-50 action (though not as hard as the GH3X action). Going by action alone, which one is "better" for me over the long run if I'm going to LEARN to play classical and jazz? To improve my mechanics? Or does it not really matter? Unfortunately, I'm used to my very old Yamaha PF85's action which has probably messed up my touch for life. lol. It was weighted, not graded, and quite plasticy.

Bottom line: should I go with the lighter action or the heavier action (though not too heavy, which was the case with the P255's GH for example)?

Thank you!

Edited by slickvguy (Yesterday at 05:03 PM)

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#2558296 - 30 minutes 28 seconds ago Re: Better DP Action for Learning? [Re: slickvguy]
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I recommmend learning how to adjust a keyboard's light/heavy settings, and even a keyboard's global tone/character/brilliance settings. I found that this could significantly chang my perception of how a keyboard felt and performed. It also gave me a better sense of the "key to sound connection" and helped clarify how the "keys" really felt as opposed to just judging everything by the keyboard's default factory settings. Its similar to changing the way an acoustic piano behaves by getting it regulated a certain way, except on a digital you can make the changes yourself. At the very least, learn how to reset the piano to its default setting so that you have a baseline to compare.

I enjoy reading online about's people's experiences and opinions of keyboard's they've tried, but it's always with the knowledge that I don't know what settings they used or in the case of acoustics - how the acoustic has been regulated. With that in mind "some dude's" critical or gushing online comment really can't carry much weight. And you may not even be sure that your experience with a piano is a good representation of the piano until you know what settings you were playing with.

FWIW - for many digitals, I found that I preferred to set the keys to a "lighter" setting, this made them feel more "responsive" and closer to the acoustics that I normally play on.
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