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#2558346 - Today at 09:16 AM Line out recorder for N2
Chris Warren Online   content
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Registered: 10/10/03
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I currently record via the N2 line-outs to a very old slow laptop running Audacity (44k Hz / 16 bit.) The only editing I plan to do is perhaps to add a bit more reverb. I then have to import the resulting .wav file into iTunes to produce an MP3 file.

Is there a better/cheaper solution for this other than having to buy a new laptop?

You can hear the quality here:

Soundcloud

... any suggestions for improving the quality gratefully received.

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#2558352 - Today at 09:51 AM Re: Line out recorder for N2 [Re: Chris Warren]
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The piano itself sound really great to me. You could certainly experiment with reverb or other ambience treatments, though it is hardly necessary.

But white noise is evident. I wonder where that is coming from in your recording chain? It did not impair my enjoyment of your playing, nor impede the recording but it is audible.
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#2558355 - Today at 10:12 AM Re: Line out recorder for N2 [Re: Chris Warren]
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No need for iTunes in that workflow. Audacity can export MP3 too (see the export option in the file menu). You just may have to download the free Lame MP3 encoder first (can be done from inside of Audacity, if I remember correctly).
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#2558358 - Today at 10:23 AM Re: Line out recorder for N2 [Re: Chris Warren]
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Oh that's a pity Yamaha didn't include record WAV to USB stick on the N series - since the USB port is there. But I suppose they felt the focus on these instruments was how they feel to play and sound in a room live.

What you can do is use the N2's record function to save your performances as MIDI files, which can then be saved to a USB stick and brought over to your computer. At that point you need to convert the MIDI files to audio using a software piano instrument that you enjoy the sound of.

Pianoteq by Modartt
https://www.pianoteq.com/instrument_list

Is a piece of software that models the sound of many acoustic pianos. You can load a MIDI file into it, including one you've performed on your N2, and then listen to it on your PC. You can also use the software to convert your MIDI file to an audio file using the software's sound engine. This method avoids "digital to analog" conversion on the N2 which then requires travel over audio cable to your PC where you are doing "analog to digital conversion" and hiss is being introduced somewhere in this signal path.

Alternatively, you can ignore MIDI entirely and record analog audio from the AUX outs of your N2 to your PC into Audacity as you are describing. If the internal sound card in your PC is a bit noisy you can try a USB audio interface to do the analog to digital conversion. The Focusrite Scarlett 2
http://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/Scarlet2i2G2
$149
works with Windows 7 or better. Once you install the drivers and have the interface recognized and available to the computer. You would set it as your io device in Audacity. Connect the AUX outs of your N2 to the inputs on the front, set your output volume and your input gain appropriately to avoid clipping and record the same as you are doing now.

The hope with this method is that the Focusrite would do a better - and hopefully quieter job of converting your audio outs to WAV without introducing hiss. But we can't be certain at the moment where you noise is coming from exactly. My best guess is that its the audio hardware in the laptop.


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#2558384 - 56 seconds ago Re: Line out recorder for N2 [Re: ElmerJFudd]
Chris Warren Online   content
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Thx Elmer. When you talk about the "noise", is that your perception from listening to the Soundcloud tracks? I hadn't perceived noise as an issue.

I'll try getting the MP3 codec installed into Audacity - that will certainly cut down the process; I'll then think about recording direct from the Aux outs to a Scarlett 2, which will presumably encode as an MP3 file if desired?

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