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I have just learned liebestraum and would love to learn the chopin revolutionary etude. However, I would rather wait if it will take me months and months to get it to a performance standard. Henle gives liebestraum a 6/7 on their difficulty scale and the etude a 7/8 which makes it seem beyond me but it is all personal so I was wondering how people actually found.
Any suggestions or advice would be appreciated.
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easier than it sounds for sure, and shorter than Liebestraum, only a busy left hand, most people forget about the right hand though.
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Henle gives liebestraum a 6/7 on their difficulty scale and the etude a 7/8 which makes it seem beyond me but it is all personal so I was wondering how people actually found.
Any suggestions or advice would be appreciated. I'd say that Op.10/12 is harder than Liebestraum, but only because most pianists who try the Chopin for the first time won't have encountered some of the awkward LH writing in anything else they'd have played before (I certainly hadn't), whereas the Liszt is like a technical composite of many pieces pianists would have played - in Chopin, Rachmaninov, even Brahms. Once you've got the LH sorted out (lots of slow practice with the right fingering), it isn't that difficult.
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The Revolutionary was my first chopin etude, learned it about 14 years ago when I didn't have anything comparable under my belt. What bennevis said is entirely correct. If you can sort out the left hand, it's manageable. It is by no means an easy piece, but being able to play and endure the left hand passages will make this etude a lot easier than you think.
It took me years of learning, forgetting and relearning this piece to be able to play it decently. Even today it's still not "performance" standard, but I have the capability to do so with some fine tuning.
You should be alright with some careful, slow and thoughtful practice. Even if you find it too difficult, it'll be good to break into it and chip away little by little until it's within your capabilities.
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This etude will sound good even if not played at the speed usually taken by a professional virtuoso. Playing at that slightly slower speed makes the piece quite a bit easier IMO. Also, the quoted difficulty rankings are very close.
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They have different kinds of difficulties.
As with a lot of pieces, I think we can't answer it unless we know how well someone wants to be playing it.
If we're talking about just playing these pieces in an elementary and basic way, including without much regard to tempo (i.e. that it's OK to be playing them at just moderate speed), I think any intermediate player could play either piece. I don't think we'd need to be talking about which is harder, because....well, any such player could play either one, and with a similar amount of work. I think they're about in the same category for that.
If we're talking about playing them in a semi-advanced way....I guess I'd have the same bottom line. Intermediate players generally wouldn't be able to do it at all, and to the extent that they might, I think both would take about the same amount of work.
I guess I'm saying that they're about at the same level. The difficulties are different and so it's hard to exactly compare, but.....the pieces are about at the same level.
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The left hand is there, but the right hand has octaves that need to be played just as quickly as the left hand, and that is the hardest part imo.
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