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#27736 - 05/09/07 12:37 AM Re: NEW THREAD: S&S FACTORY TOUR IN JUNE - Now with Picts & Reviews!
kenny Offline
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Frank I tried to reply to your PM but your mailbox was full. \:\(

Whaaaaaa!

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#27737 - 05/09/07 06:31 PM Re: NEW THREAD: S&S FACTORY TOUR IN JUNE - Now with Picts & Reviews!
hotkeys Offline
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Let us know if another tour is planned in the future. I would like to take part in that...

- Mark

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#27738 - 05/11/07 07:29 PM Re: NEW THREAD: S&S FACTORY TOUR IN JUNE - Now with Picts & Reviews!
Pegg Offline
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Registered: 01/12/05
Posts: 44
Loc: Maryland
I am still planning to attend with one guest.
Peggy

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#27739 - 05/12/07 12:39 PM Re: NEW THREAD: S&S FACTORY TOUR IN JUNE - Now with Picts & Reviews!
Emanuel Ravelli Offline
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I've waited years for an opportunity like this. Unfortunately, I'll be way out of town (Hawaii, nephew's wedding) on the 19th. Have a great time, take lots of pictures (but don't disturb those employees!), and please let us know when the next tour is planned.
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#27740 - 05/15/07 06:49 PM Re: NEW THREAD: S&S FACTORY TOUR IN JUNE - Now with Picts & Reviews!
Pegg Offline
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I will not be able to make the tour, that will leave two spots available if someone else wants to go. My job decided to have a mandatory meeting that I must attend.

Peggy

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#27741 - 05/15/07 08:25 PM Re: NEW THREAD: S&S FACTORY TOUR IN JUNE - Now with Picts & Reviews!
fingers Offline
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Peggy,
Sorry you won't be able to make it. Thank you for the notification. I'm sure there will be other tours.

As it turns out, I was contacted by member BWV846 who wishes to go. Also, LJC has asked to bring a friend. In that case, we have our 20.
Anyone else interested, can be on a back up list.

fingers
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#27742 - 05/15/07 11:37 PM Re: NEW THREAD: S&S FACTORY TOUR IN JUNE - Now with Picts & Reviews!
rustyfingers Offline
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Posts: 788
Loc: Massachusetts
 Quote:
Hmmm.. I thought your screen name sounded familiar!! Nice to see you hangin' out here! [/QB]
Hi Terry! Thanks for the message. Not to hijack the thread, but I've been flat-out busy in the real world for a couple of years. Had to cut down on PW--too addictive for me! I've missed you all.

Tour people: I'm not sure how I'm coming, may drive down from Massachusetts and stay with relatives on Long Island the night before or may take Amtrak into Penn Station in the morning. Would be willing to carpool if that works out for anybody.
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#27743 - 05/16/07 10:54 AM Re: NEW THREAD: S&S FACTORY TOUR IN JUNE - Now with Picts & Reviews!
atropos Offline
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Loc: New York
Is 20 the max? I'd really like to see this... what do I need to do?

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#27744 - 05/23/07 10:55 PM Re: NEW THREAD: S&S FACTORY TOUR IN JUNE - Now with Picts & Reviews!
kenny Offline
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I am not able to go after all.

Please cross Kenny off the list.

My friend Bernard is still going so keep his place.

Thanks
Kenny

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#27745 - 05/24/07 07:48 PM Re: NEW THREAD: S&S FACTORY TOUR IN JUNE - Now with Picts & Reviews!
fingers Offline
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atropos,

If you would like to go, Kenny's spot is available.

fingers
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#27746 - 05/24/07 07:50 PM Re: NEW THREAD: S&S FACTORY TOUR IN JUNE - Now with Picts & Reviews!
atropos Offline
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Loc: New York
I'll be there... thank you.

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#27747 - 05/26/07 08:38 AM Re: NEW THREAD: S&S FACTORY TOUR IN JUNE - Now with Picts & Reviews!
fingers Offline
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Loc: Westchester, NY
You are most welcome,

fingers
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#27748 - 06/08/07 04:36 PM Re: NEW THREAD: S&S FACTORY TOUR IN JUNE - Now with Picts & Reviews!
EHpianist Offline
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Laura's husband will not be going because he has changed his travel plans.

That leaves one more space available.
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#27749 - 06/08/07 04:42 PM Re: NEW THREAD: S&S FACTORY TOUR IN JUNE - Now with Picts & Reviews!
EHpianist Offline
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oops. deleted.
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#27750 - 06/08/07 08:01 PM Re: NEW THREAD: S&S FACTORY TOUR IN JUNE - Now with Picts & Reviews!
fingers Offline
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Loc: Westchester, NY
 Quote:
Originally posted by EHpianist:
Laura's husband will not be going because he has changed his travel plans.

That leaves one more space available. [/b]
CTPianotech notified me that he would like to go. He will fill in for Laura's husband. Oh wait!... That didn't come out right. \:D

fingers
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#27751 - 06/08/07 08:14 PM Re: NEW THREAD: S&S FACTORY TOUR IN JUNE - Now with Picts & Reviews!
CTPianotech Offline
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#27752 - 06/14/07 10:11 AM Re: NEW THREAD: S&S FACTORY TOUR IN JUNE - Now with Picts & Reviews!
BethJ Offline
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Registered: 03/12/06
Posts: 9
Loc: South Orange, NJ
I'd love to be added to the waiting list for this tour . . .

Beth Tucker

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#27753 - 06/15/07 05:33 PM Re: NEW THREAD: S&S FACTORY TOUR IN JUNE - Now with Picts & Reviews!
reliv4all Offline
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Registered: 04/24/06
Posts: 70
Loc: New England
Hi fingers,

Something came up and we will not be able to make the tour on Tuesday. So sorry for the last minute change. At least this will open up 4 spots for people who are in the waiting list.

For those going, kindly post a lot of pictures. ;-)

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#27754 - 06/15/07 09:09 PM Re: NEW THREAD: S&S FACTORY TOUR IN JUNE - Now with Picts & Reviews!
billz Offline
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Registered: 11/17/06
Posts: 11
Loc: Connecticut
Well - if there's still space, I'd like to attend also. Please advise. Thanks.

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#27755 - 06/16/07 06:25 PM Re: NEW THREAD: S&S FACTORY TOUR IN JUNE - Now with Picts & Reviews!
fingers Offline
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Registered: 02/08/04
Posts: 799
Loc: Westchester, NY
It looks like BethJ and billz are in.

The date is TUESDAY JUNE 19th.

The time is 9 AM SHARP.

The place is The Steinway FACTORY in QUEENS. (Not Steinway Hall in Manhattan)

fingers
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#27756 - 06/16/07 10:19 PM Re: NEW THREAD: S&S FACTORY TOUR IN JUNE - Now with Picts & Reviews!
BethJ Offline
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Registered: 03/12/06
Posts: 9
Loc: South Orange, NJ
Great!

I'll be there.

Beth

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#27757 - 06/17/07 06:32 PM Re: NEW THREAD: S&S FACTORY TOUR IN JUNE - Now with Picts & Reviews!
Jim Frazee Offline
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Registered: 01/31/06
Posts: 392
Loc: Westchester County, New York
Fingers et all,

Unfortunately, I cannot attend Tuesday, June 19 session at Steinway because, following back surgery, I've had a small stroke. Please someone take this spot and I'll take my chances at a later date when I'm up to it. Sorry for all of this but glad than someone can enjoy.
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#27758 - 06/17/07 10:59 PM Re: NEW THREAD: S&S FACTORY TOUR IN JUNE - Now with Picts & Reviews!
fingers Offline
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Posts: 799
Loc: Westchester, NY
Jim,
I'm sure I speak for all members of PW when I wish you a speedy recovery.

fingers
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#27759 - 06/18/07 06:28 AM Re: NEW THREAD: S&S FACTORY TOUR IN JUNE - Now with Picts & Reviews!
pianoloverus Offline
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Loc: New York City
I am also sorry to report that due to an extreme personal emergency situation I will not be able to attend.
My sincerest apologies for the late notice.

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#27760 - 06/18/07 05:55 PM Re: NEW THREAD: S&S FACTORY TOUR IN JUNE - Now with Picts & Reviews!
atropos Offline
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Registered: 05/15/07
Posts: 68
Loc: New York
whoohoo... see you folks in the morning!!

Jim, hope you recover soon!

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#27761 - 06/19/07 04:49 PM Re: NEW THREAD: S&S FACTORY TOUR IN JUNE - Now with Picts & Reviews!
lilylady Offline
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Registered: 03/17/05
Posts: 4974
Loc: boston north
Sorry for the problems that have come up for those that are not able to attend. Please be well.

For those attending...

We are eagerly awaiting your notes and pics.

LL
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#27762 - 06/20/07 06:47 AM Re: NEW THREAD: S&S FACTORY TOUR IN JUNE - Now with Picts & Reviews!
CTPianotech Offline
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Registered: 02/06/06
Posts: 1473
Loc: CT
Thanks to all who helped put this tour together!

From beginning to end, it really fascinating to watch all the processes taking place. (not to mention the TOOLS!)

Here's a few shots in a very[/b] warm room where recently glued rims were curing:



And here's head honcho of PianoWorld Frank B, with the head of Steinway, Mr Bruce Stevens:


I believe there are a couple group photos that others took---I am looking forward to seeing those. It was great meeting so many of you!
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Piano Restorations in Central CT
D-C installations, Player-Piano installations/service
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#27763 - 06/20/07 09:35 AM Re: NEW THREAD: S&S FACTORY TOUR IN JUNE - Now with Picts & Reviews!
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First, I'd also like to thank fingers for pulling this tour together for us, well done.

It was great meeting members I've not met before. I figure I've only got about 23,300 to go :-o

I can tell you the young ladies from Duo Scarbó are as lovely in person as they appear from their pictures and posts.

Toward the end of the tour we went by a room where customers/artist can try out a number of finished pianos. I was hoping we would get to go in, planning on talking Elena & Laura into playing :-) Unfortunately the room was in use at the time.

But I digress.

We started the tour in the office area. My two passengers (CTpianotech and billz) and I arrived about 15 minutes late, not bad for having left at 5:30 a.m.
When we walked into the room, our tour guide for the day was wrapping up his briefing.

Keith Keeler is a sales representative at Steinway Hall in NY. He's obviously very knowledgeable about Steinway pianos, and proud of the company he works for. If you're ever in the area, do yourself a favor and visit Steinway Hall, and while you're there, say hi to Keith.

The tour was fascinating although it was nearly impossible to hear Keith over the noise of a very busy factory. A small suggestion to Steinway: Consider investing in a wireless headphone setup for conducting the tours (like some other factory tours use).

When we started the tour, we walked past the lumber yard. It looked like they had enough wood to build an entire town. As Keith explained it, the wood is all carefully selected by (forgot his name) from various places around the world, and shipped to NY.

Next we walked past the "old" Steinway factory, built in the 1800's. You could almost feel the history emanating from the building.
They now use this building for the restoration of vintage Steinways.

Then, it was on into the factory itself.
My first impression? ... Big!
And the more we walked, the more my impression was reinforced. It seems to go on forever.

Lots of machinery, some looking very old, and many looking very modern. And lots of people busy making Steinway pianos.

Unfortunately, they don't allow a lot of picture taking so it is hard to recreate the actual experience we had on the tour.
However you can get a taste of what we saw by checking out the factory tour on the Steinway web site ... http://www.steinway.com/factory/tour.shtml

A few things that did stick out in my mind:
Steinway likes to have full control over every facet of the process.

~ They make their own (spruce) soundboards, and in fact have workers who spend their days picking out matched pieces of spruce to be made into soundboards.

~ They also make all their own action parts, an interesting part of the tour (and the only place I saw huge signs saying "No Cameras Allowed".

~ They have a lot of specialized machinery, including one that is the size of a house trailer that does nothing but glue veneer to the wood.

~ The hammer rail has a solid maple dowel inserted so the mounting screws have something solid and stable to bite into.

~ There are a LOT of pianos in various stages of production at any given time. I mean a lot!

~ For the few parts Steinway isn't making themselves, they bought the company that is (which I guess means they are making the parts:-). I believe the plates are one example (again, someone correct me if I'm wrong).

~ If I remember correctly, production runs at an average of 10 finished pianos a day (50 per week), with the factory running 48 weeks a year (someone feel free to correct me if I got that wrong).

Ok, enough for now. Hopefully some of the other attendees will post their thoughts and pictures. My pictures are still inside a cheap disposable camera, I'll have them up in a couple of days.

My thanks to Bruce Stevens, President & CEO of Steinway Pianos for taking the time to do a meet and greet with us. As I understand it, Bruce is not typically in the factory, but made it a point to be there to meet the Piano World forums folks, and he hung around while we took pictures (at our insistence).
He even tried to help with the food setup (stick to making pianos Bruce).

And finally, thank you to everyone at Steinway for inviting us into your home and making us feel welcomed.
I hope we get the opportunity to take other members on the tour soon.

- Frank Baxter
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#27764 - 06/20/07 09:53 AM Re: NEW THREAD: S&S FACTORY TOUR IN JUNE - Now with Picts & Reviews!
fingers Offline
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Frank,

Really Great Post!!! The only thing I can say is thank you to Keith and Steinway, to all who came from near and far, and to Frank and Piano World.

Same time next year?

fingers
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#27765 - 06/20/07 11:55 AM Re: NEW THREAD: S&S FACTORY TOUR IN JUNE - Now with Picts & Reviews!
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Thanks, Frank, for the wonderful summary and I'd love to take that tour! (maybe next year). Frank, you're correct: Steinway bought Kelly, the plate maker (I believe it's the only piano plate foundry in the US) and also Kluge, the keyboard maker that supplies these parts for Steinways.

Sounds like a great time and it's wonderful that Bruce was there to welcome our PW group!

Sophia

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