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#281395 - 08/23/01 08:13 PM Old John Broadwood & Sons grand
Ed A. Hall Offline
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Iíve got an old John Broadwood & Sons grand piano which Iím trying to find out when it was built. Thereís a large stenciled number under the piano on one of the large wooden beams with the number 2504. Iíve also found this number on several other wooden parts. The piano has an 85 note keyboard and is about 7 ft. long. It is also straight strung and has 3 metal bars that are attached to the plate with nuts and bolts. Also, the tuning pins have screw type threads and the plate is threaded to accept these threaded tuning pins. The piano is in fairly good unrestored condition and has a beautiful rosewood veneered case. It would be nice to find out a little more about this instrument and whether or not itís worth restoring.

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#281396 - 08/24/01 12:01 PM Re: Old John Broadwood & Sons grand
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Registered: 05/26/01
Posts: 32
Loc: Minnesota
Hi, Ed
I don't know anything about early pianos but check out this web site web page If you decide to email him, give him some time to answer you since he just left my house on Wed. after delivering my piano which he completly rebuilt. And we are very happy with the result.
N.P. \:D

#281397 - 08/26/01 09:16 PM Re: Old John Broadwood & Sons grand
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Registered: 05/28/01
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Loc: Coxsackie, New York
Your question really boils down to whether an old, straight strung, 85 key, genuine antique, 7' Broadwood grand is worth restoring.

Honestly speaking, most people who are looking to buy pianos these days are looking for modern pianos and by that I mean that even a mid 1870's Steinway or mid 1880's Bechstein when properly rebuilt qualify as fully modern pianos. The Broadwood can be made into something nice, even exceptional, but how much do you intend to spend to get what kind of instrument from it?

In Washington state, there are any number of builders from the good restorers to the "one percenters;" those who aren't satisfied until they can make the perfect piano from some old relic. If you are located up there, you have a great variety of talent to look over, talk to and deal with, should you so choose.

I'd usually make a decision based on what I expected to sell such a piano for when completed and at best, at very best, you're going to be lucky to get $10K for it. If you want some suggestions, e-mail me.
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#281398 - 08/29/01 07:46 PM Re: Old John Broadwood & Sons grand
Niles Duncan Offline
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Registered: 05/27/01
Posts: 513
Loc: Pasadena, CA
Whether or not it's worth restoring depends on what you want. This is a solidly built piano that is a fine representation of mid 19th Century piano technology. However it is not a modern piano and never will be one. If the sound and feel of a modern piano is what you want, spending money to restore this piano is not going to get that for you. On the other hand if you are interested in this piano for what it is, it could be a very worthy restoration project and could end up a very nice piano. I personally have an 1860's vintage Erard which I rebuilt some years ago, which is quite an interesting artifact and has been used in a few historical instrument recitals. If you do decide to rebuild it you should be careful about who does the work, since not every rebuilder who may be totally competent rebuilding a modern piano will have the proper aptitude or attitude for working on this type of piano. Also be aware that it is going to cost. This is not something that is going to make sense from a strictly economic point of view (money in will not equal resale value out).

Niles Duncan
Piano rebuilder, Pasadena, CA www.pianosource.com

[ August 29, 2001: Message edited by: Niles Duncan ]

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