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#28959 - 11/22/08 05:20 PM
Re: STEINWAY FACTORY TOUR
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1000 Post Club Member
Registered: 11/29/04
Posts: 1458
Loc: New York
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1) LJC 2) Rich Gallassini 3) James 4) Me4dt 5) Stevester 6) CC2 and Chopin lover 7) Kong Lee 8) Joan Lee 9) James Montelbano 10) hotkeys 11) James Callan 12) Jon Dumont 13) Doogs 14) Rich Crucet 15) Mrs. LJC 16) Confucian 17) Jon 18) Axtremus 19) Jeffrey 20) Jeff BC 21) Jeff BC's daughter 22) JSComposer 23) Tenders 24) Jazzyprof 25) Emanuel Ravelli 26) Jeff Bauer 27) Ron Claiborne 28) CTpianotech
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#28960 - 11/22/08 07:21 PM
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500 Post Club Member
Registered: 02/08/04
Posts: 795
Loc: Westchester, NY
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OK, I'm good to go along with the son of fingers.
fingers
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#28961 - 11/22/08 07:36 PM
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Registered: 11/20/04
Posts: 1697
Loc: Stamford CT, New York City .
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Count me in as well!
There is no way I'll miss meeting/seeing again everyone when I’m only 40 minutes away...
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#28962 - 11/23/08 10:06 AM
Re: STEINWAY FACTORY TOUR
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Registered: 11/29/04
Posts: 1458
Loc: New York
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1) LJC 2) Rich Gallassini 3) James 4) Me4dt 5) Stevester 6) CC2 and Chopin lover 7) Kong Lee 8) Joan Lee 9) James Montelbano 10) hotkeys 11) James Callan 12) Jon Dumont 13) Doogs 14) Rich Crucet 15) Mrs. LJC 16) Confucian 17) Jon 18) Axtremus 19) Jeffrey 20) Jeff BC 21) Jeff BC's daughter 22) JSComposer 23) Tenders 24) Jazzyprof 25) Emanuel Ravelli 26) Jeff Bauer 27) Ron Claiborne 28) CTpianotech 29) Fingers 30) Son of Fingers 31) Ori
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#28963 - 11/24/08 11:09 AM
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Registered: 10/04/07
Posts: 119
Loc: Haverhill, MA
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For those of us who are GPS enabled, what address should we use for the destination? Alanna and I will come down the night before - any suggestions where we should stay? Does Steinway have a relationship with a local hotel that would benefit the long distance travellers?
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#28966 - 11/29/08 04:55 AM
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Registered: 12/06/07
Posts: 329
Loc: Pennsylvania
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My apologies. Jon Dumont and I [James Callan] had a business involvement come up that won't permit us to be part of the tour.
Please enjoy the tour and take copious notes for the forum.
Thanks.
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#28967 - 11/29/08 08:56 AM
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Registered: 11/29/04
Posts: 1458
Loc: New York
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1) LJC 2) Rich Gallassini 3) James 4) Me4dt 5) Stevester 6) CC2 and Chopin lover 7) Kong Lee 8) Joan Lee 9) James Montelbano 10) hotkeys 11) Doogs 12) Rich Crucet 13) Mrs. LJC 14) Confucian 15) Jon 16) Axtremus 17) Jeffrey 18) Jeff BC 19) Jeff BC's daughter 20) JSComposer 21) Tenders 22) Jazzyprof 23) Emanuel Ravelli 24) Jeff Bauer 25) Ron Claiborne 26) CTpianotech 27) Fingers 28) Son of Fingers 29) Ori 30) Joe Day
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#28968 - 12/01/08 09:48 PM
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1000 Post Club Member
Registered: 11/29/04
Posts: 1458
Loc: New York
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For GPS, 19th Avenue and 38th Street will get you there. the address is 1 Steinway Place. Also, feel free to call our factory for directions if need be: 718-721-2600.
Parking is in the Foreman's parking lot.
12/11/08 @ 9:00
1) LJC 2) Rich Gallassini 3) James 4) Me4dt 5) Stevester 6) CC2 and Chopin lover 7) Kong Lee 8) Joan Lee 9) James Montelbano 10) hotkeys 11) Doogs 12) Rich Crucet 13) Mrs. LJC 14) Confucian 15) Jon 16) Axtremus 17) Jeffrey 18) Jeff BC 19) Jeff BC's daughter 20) JSComposer 21) Tenders 22) Jazzyprof 23) Emanuel Ravelli 24) Jeff Bauer 25) Ron Claiborne 26) CTpianotech 27) Fingers 28) Son of Fingers 29) Ori 30) Joe Day
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#28969 - 12/02/08 11:28 AM
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Junior Member
Registered: 02/11/07
Posts: 3
Loc: delaware county, PA
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Hello everyone I'm new to this forum but Steinway Factory Tour sounds very tempting. It looks like it is in a couple of days (Dec 11) but if there is any chance to join you that day we'll be just happy... 2 persons, me and my friend/pianist Tomasz Walski
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#28970 - 12/02/08 06:46 PM
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Junior Member
Registered: 11/30/08
Posts: 5
Loc: Elka Park, NY
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Will you be having a factory tour of Steinway? I must know so that I can mapqwest myself over there or have my husband go with me. Please respond for today is Tuesday and soon it'll be Thursday.
Janaina Klang
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#28971 - 12/02/08 09:38 PM
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1000 Post Club Member
Registered: 11/29/04
Posts: 1458
Loc: New York
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I am sorry Piotr and Janaina but this tour is filled up. On the bright side it will be an annual event so keep watching. Also its next Thursday the 11th.
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#28972 - 12/03/08 08:41 PM
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Registered: 11/25/06
Posts: 2604
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Bob, Jeff Bauer is a spy. Don't let him in. He's got tiny little cameras everywhere and a recording device. Ori too probably. Just kidding. I remember my tour through the factory. You guys are sooooo lucky to be going. I hope you all have a great time!
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#28974 - 12/08/08 02:50 PM
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Registered: 10/04/07
Posts: 119
Loc: Haverhill, MA
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How early should/can we get into the parking lot? Is there a breakfast place nearby (within walking distance maybe)?
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#28975 - 12/08/08 07:28 PM
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1000 Post Club Member
Registered: 11/29/04
Posts: 1458
Loc: New York
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Thats too bad Ax! Jeff, i dont know probably, maybe someone else can comment.
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#28976 - 12/09/08 05:13 PM
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Junior Member
Registered: 07/13/06
Posts: 2
Loc: Columbus OH
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THE STEINWAY FACTORY TOUR IS A VERY WORTHWHILE EXPERIENCE - We went last December and had a blast!
It amazes me the number of people who respond with their various "excuses" of why they can't attend. If you want to be there, you will --- just that simple.
Once you take the tour, you will realize (as did my 13 y/o daughter) why the Steinway is the premier instrument and all other discussions will be over.
As to taking pictures there - remember that it is a workplace (if nothing else) -- would you want tourists at you workplace taking pictures? So, take the tour, be thankful you can take a look, enjoy Bob's commentary, and live with your memories.
David S/N 271960 - 1931 "L"
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#28977 - 12/09/08 09:12 PM
Re: STEINWAY FACTORY TOUR
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1000 Post Club Member
Registered: 11/29/04
Posts: 1458
Loc: New York
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For GPS, 19th Avenue and 38th Street will get you there. The address is 1 Steinway Place. Also, feel free to call our factory for directions if need be: 718-721-2600.
Parking is in the Foreman's parking lot.
Thursday 12/11/08 @ 9:00
1) LJC 2) Rich Gallassini 3) James 4) Me4dt 5) Stevester 6) CC2 and Chopin lover 7) Kong Lee 8) Joan Lee 9) James Montelbano 10) hotkeys 11) Doogs 12) Rich Crucet 13) Mrs. LJC 14) Confucian 15) Jon 16) Jeffrey 17) Jeff BC 18) Jeff BC's daughter 19) JSComposer 20) Tenders 21) Jazzyprof 22) Emanuel Ravelli 23) Jeff Bauer 24) Ron Claiborne 25) CTpianotech 26) Fingers 27) Son of Fingers 28) Ori 29) Joe Day
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#28978 - 12/09/08 11:36 PM
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Registered: 09/24/08
Posts: 20
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Sorry somthing comes up and I can't go. Please remove me from the list.
Wish you all well and have a wonderful time!
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#28979 - 12/10/08 09:20 AM
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Registered: 05/28/01
Posts: 8449
Loc: Philadelphia/South Jersey
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My apologies to all.
Sorry for the late notice, but I cannot make the tour tomorrow. Please enjoy it and I hope someone can use my place. Take pictures where you can.
Cheers,
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#28980 - 12/10/08 01:16 PM
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Registered: 10/04/03
Posts: 2834
Loc: New Jersey
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My apologies as well. Hopefully another tour.
Have fun everyone!
Regards, Steve Ries
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#28981 - 12/10/08 06:50 PM
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Registered: 01/22/08
Posts: 127
Loc: Rockaway Beach New York
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Does anybody know about what time the tour will be ending up? Any post-tour festivities planned?
Just as importantly, will we have opportunities to try out some of the pianos that are available for sale?
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#28982 - 12/10/08 06:53 PM
Re: STEINWAY FACTORY TOUR
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Registered: 11/29/04
Posts: 1458
Loc: New York
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For GPS, 19th Avenue and 38th Street will get you there. The address is 1 Steinway Place. Also, feel free to call our factory for directions if need be: 718-721-2600.
Parking is in the Foreman's parking lot.
Thursday 12/11/08 @ 9:00
1) LJC 2) James 3) CC2 and Chopin lover 4) Kong Lee 5) Joan Lee 6) James Montelbano 7) hotkeys 8) Doogs 9) Rich Crucet 10) Mrs. LJC 11) Confucian 12) Jon 13) Jeffrey 14) Jeff BC 15) Jeff BC's daughter 16) JSComposer 17) Tenders 18) Jazzyprof 19) Emanuel Ravelli 20) Jeff Bauer 21) Ron Claiborne 22) CTpianotech 23) Fingers 24) Son of Fingers 25) Ori 26) Joe Day
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#28983 - 12/10/08 06:58 PM
Re: STEINWAY FACTORY TOUR
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1000 Post Club Member
Registered: 11/29/04
Posts: 1458
Loc: New York
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For GPS, 19th Avenue and 38th Street will get you there. The address is 1 Steinway Place. Also, feel free to call our factory for directions if need be: 718-721-2600.
Parking is in the Foreman's parking lot.
Thursday 12/11/08 @ 9:00
1) LJC 2) James 3) CC2 and Chopin lover 4) Kong Lee 5) Joan Lee 6) James Montelbano 7) hotkeys 8) Doogs 9) Rich Crucet 10) Mrs. LJC 11) Confucian 12) Jeffrey 13) Jeff BC 14) Jeff BC's daughter 15) JSComposer 16) Tenders 17) Jazzyprof 18) Emanuel Ravelli 19) Jeff Bauer 20) Ron Claiborne 21) CTpianotech 22) Fingers 23) Son of Fingers 24) Ori 25) Joe Day
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#28984 - 12/10/08 08:40 PM
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Registered: 01/22/08
Posts: 127
Loc: Rockaway Beach New York
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(Double post-please excuse)
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#28985 - 12/10/08 10:10 PM
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1000 Post Club Member
Registered: 11/29/04
Posts: 1458
Loc: New York
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Linda, probably around 1:00. We might get to try out pianos, there is a small selection room. Last time we couldnt go in because someone was busy picking out a concert grand. See you in the morning!
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#28986 - 12/11/08 04:31 PM
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Registered: 03/17/05
Posts: 4920
Loc: boston north
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OK, OK, OK, we have been patient...
'tis 4:30 PM and the tour must have ended by now...and we are all waiting for reports! and pics!
unless you are all out partying, and then we will patiently wait a little longer for your tales of the day...
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#28987 - 12/12/08 01:04 AM
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Registered: 03/31/08
Posts: 73
Loc: Westchester, NY
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It was a class act -- they pulled out "all the stops" for us, and showed us everything from brute force to absolute precision. What a fascinating company and an enthusiastic, knowledgeable, and committed management and customer service team. They bent a frame for us. They flipped a piano for us. They showed us the selection room jam-packed with 20 or more completed pianos just waiting to be plucked, like so many berries on a bush. They gave many of us felt hammers (I think that had failed quality control) as souvenirs, not to mention lunch afterwards. We saw the hot drying room for the frames and the other drying room for the lumber. They showed us the CNC milling machine going to town on four giant pieces of wood at a time. They shared a Steinway SECRET with us.
Most of what we saw was wood, wood, wood, wood, wood, and more wood -- a termite's delight. But we also saw the laquer finishing section, the action assembly section, the stringing section. It was just awesome. JeffBC's daughter was a shy delight and hung on for all four hours, ending in a much better mood than the needlessly belligerent piano tech who monopolized the Q&A after lunch with obnoxious leading questions...after having been almost as overbearing during the tour itself.
[My apologies but a special aside is in order here. Dude, I don't know who you are, or how many brilliant posts you've made or what kind of following you've got on this message board, but next year, make your own tour arrangements. For shame. To behave that way after all the kindness, patience, and enthusiasm those guys put into entertaining, informing, and feeding us from 9am-2pm was the epitome of rudeness. I cleared out early once I'd had enough of you -- my initial impression was that you made the whole group look bad, but on further reflection you were such an outlier I don't think the group's reputation was at all harmed. You were successful in conveying yourself as an abrasive font of knowledge. If that was your objective, mission accomplished, but I'd never hire or work with you in any capacity. End of rant.]
The rest of the group was great -- what an interesting bunch of folks had been assembled. Professional pianists, technicians, students, and even a few total hacks like me. There was a fascinating two-way discussion afterwards about the future of Steinway and the trajectory of the public's interest in pianodom in a different world order than was experienced in the last 150 years. I left with a very strong impression that Steinway knows its business profoundly clearly and what it is as a brand name...and isn't.
To address some of the comments made from previous tours...
They were very clear on the photo protocol, which I thought was entirely reasonable. Some of the explanations did get drowned out in the noise, but it's a shop -- it wouldn't have been the same if the tour had happened on a weekend when there were no moving parts!
I thought it was perfect. Standing O to Bob Snyder, the rest of the Steinway team, and LJC for organizing everything.
I have a few photos but I'm traveling and will have to figure out how to post them later.
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#28988 - 12/12/08 01:14 AM
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Registered: 01/22/08
Posts: 127
Loc: Rockaway Beach New York
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I don't know about partying, but I stayed til five pm trying out pianos.
I wasn't impressed with the preparation of the pianos. Most needed a lot more work than had been put into them.
Question: if a group picture wasn't taken (and I'm not aware that one was), did the tour really happen?
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