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I went to see a Yamaha for sale from a priavate party. The name on the plate is Nippon Gakko. The model is G3. It has only two pedals. The serial number, I believe, is 500953 or 900953. Either way, I couldn't find the number at the Yamaha website. Can anyone please help me...

1. Is this a "grey" Yamaha? How can I tell?
2. How do I find out the age from one of the two numbers above?

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Nippon Gakki is the name of a company, which means Musical Instruments of Japan.

G was the series that Yamaha used before the current C series G1, G2, G3 etc. related to size with G1/C1 being their smallest grand.

So your G3 is an old Yamaha, from the mid 1960's


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I think probably grey market.. I don't know where you are though..

Nippon w/2pedal is usually grey market but sometimes people bring them from Asia themselves.. I believe Larry Fine book explains these pianos..

Not bad assuming the price is right and piano is comparable to price.. Everything is relative to cost..


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nippon Gakko?

um... japanese lizard laugh

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The owner is neither a pianist nor a technician. The ad said it was built in 1984. The serial number is either 900953 or 500953. I can't find it on the Yamaha website. The piano has excellent appearance, but is out of tune; its action is a bit stiff and a key or two are not that responsive. I guess it could be that the piano has not been played for a while. I think it needs some action regulation in addition to tuning, in addition to voicing. Well, the bottom line is the asking price is $7,000. Since I have not shopped anything in such a long time that I have no idea what is a reasonable price for it. My city is about as expensive as north Atlanta suburbs. I'll go to some dealers on the weekend to get a feel for it.

Any opinion is appreciated.

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500000 or 900000 it is still mid late 60's

Pricey in my land


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This is only an opinion . You are talking about a piano made by Yamaha almost 40yrs old. We are not talking here about a classic, but an instrument that when new, it was a bit below midrange at the time. I promise you that Yamahas don’t get any better as they get older.
Apparently with some problems. Would you consider paying $7000.00 for a 40yrs old Toyota or Nissan ? In top of that probably with some problems? (maybe not the best analogy because cars deteriorate faster, but you’ll get the point)

Since you are buying from a private party. You have no warranty. Not even a courtesy tuning or deliver, so you are going to carry with those expense, plus whatever potential problems the piano may have.
Again since you are buying from a private party. I’m assuming, you are going to come up with all the cash at front or at least with some portion. Therefore if you have $7000.00 available for your piano. Don’t put your good money into a mediocre or probably bad instrument. Use that as down payment and get something new or not that old from a dealer.

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I believe that Nippon Gakki was the name that Yamaha was listed with on the Japanese stock market. I think is was their old corporate name.

I *DO* remember clearly selling thousands of them. They are genuine Yamahas, albeit "grey".


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