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#348321 - 03/20/06 03:25 PM liszt's transcendental studies (1837 version)
gordonf238 Offline
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Registered: 01/21/05
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"[they] would not be able to be played in concert today by anyone" -claudio arrau on the 1837 etudes

"unfortunately, one cannot hope to hear music of this kind often: liszt created it for himself, and no one else in the world should flatter himself that he could even begin to perform it" -hector berlioz on the 1837 etudes


are there any recordings of the transcendental etudes in their second version form (1837)? they are said to be the most technically challenging of the 3 versions, and the more popular-1851 (final version, which is the most often performed/recorded kind) is toned down quite a bit in terms of difficulty.

i'd be interested to hear a more challenging version of feux follets or mazeppa (as if the current edition wasn't hard enough)

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#348322 - 03/20/06 03:31 PM Re: liszt's transcendental studies (1837 version)
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At least Howard has made a recording of them:

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000002ZZY/

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#348323 - 03/20/06 03:34 PM Re: liszt's transcendental studies (1837 version)
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That's insane.

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#348324 - 03/20/06 03:40 PM Re: liszt's transcendental studies (1837 version)
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i'm surprised cziffra hasn't recorded these. he was infatuated with liszt and loved to challenge himself with technically demanding pieces.

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#348325 - 03/20/06 05:26 PM Re: liszt's transcendental studies (1837 version)
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gordon I made a thread a while back when i bought the cd's of leslie howard playing the 1837 etudes, and the first version of the paganinin etudes.... i have the cd's and they're worth a listen.

http://www.pianoworld.com/ubb/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?/topic/2/11009.html
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#348326 - 03/20/06 08:11 PM Re: liszt's transcendental studies (1837 version)
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1851 version sounds best. Brendel also said the same thing as Arrau regarding 1837 version. Is it actually called Grand Etudes? Well, I might be wrong. Anyway, Paley did actually perform all 12 GEs live in concert.

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#348327 - 03/20/06 08:15 PM Re: liszt's transcendental studies (1837 version)
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Registered: 10/11/04
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yep, and the Paley all 12 GEs live in recital are on videos too.

after listening/watching it, the 1851 version is definately better. It might be slightly easier, but it sounds more impressive.

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#348328 - 03/20/06 08:22 PM Re: liszt's transcendental studies (1837 version)
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Does anyone know where i can get the Paley video?? I've looked online and can barely find any info on Paley himself...
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