Welcome to the Piano World Piano Forums
Over 2 million posts about pianos, digital pianos, and all types of keyboard instruments
Join the World's Largest Community of Piano Lovers (it's free)
It's Fun to Play the Piano ... Please Pass It On!

Gifts and supplies for the musician

the Forums & Piano World

Trying Something New with Search
Piano Acc. & Gift Items in
Piano World's Online Store
In PianoSupplies.com ,(a division of Piano World) our online store for piano and music gifts and accessories, party goods, tuning equipment, piano moving equipment, benches, lamps and more.

Free Shipping on Jansen Artist Piano Benches
(ad) Pianoteq
(ad) Pearl River
Pearl River Pianos
(ad) P B Guide
Acoustic & Digital Piano Guide
Who's Online
80 registered (AndrewJCW, Amosdoll, Anticlock, Bachus, augustm, 20 invisible), 962 Guests and 8 Spiders online.
Key: Admin, Global Mod, Mod
(ad) Estonia Piano
Estonia Pianos
Quick Links to Useful Piano & Music Resources
Our Classified Ads
Find Piano Professionals-

*Piano Dealers - Piano Stores
*Piano Tuners
*Piano Teachers
*Piano Movers
*Piano Restorations
*Piano Manufacturers

Quick Links:
*Advertise On Piano World
*Free Piano Newsletter
*Online Piano Recitals
*Piano Recitals Index
*Piano & Music Accessories
*Live Piano Venues
*Music School Listings
* Buying a Piano
*Buying A Acoustic Piano
*Buying a Digital Piano
*Pianos for Sale
*Sell Your Piano
*How Old is My Piano?
*Piano Books
*Piano Art, Pictures, & Posters
*Directory/Site Map
*Virtual Piano
*Music Word Search
*Piano Screen Saver
*Piano Videos
*Virtual Piano Chords
Topic Options
#359130 - 01/30/02 12:12 AM Scarlatti Thread
MacDuff Offline
500 Post Club Member

Registered: 05/26/01
Posts: 560
Loc: Southeast, U.S.A.
Well, I've been away from the computer a day or two and see that in trying to edit the thread I started about Scarlatti sonatas, I managed to delete everthing. OOOPS

So to recap: What are your suggestions for quiet, lyrical, and/or minor-key Scarlatti sonatas. I can find the quick, virtuostic ones (that I like) much more easily.

I recall from the original thread suggestions of looking at L. 23 (E Major) and L. 118 (F Minor), which are ones Horowitz recorded. L. 422 (D Minor) was also mentioned.

I'm also interested in comparing notes with other Scarlatti fans as to their favorite sonatas in general. Some of my favorites that I have actually played (or mangled) include:

K. 25, L. 481, f-sharp
K. 51, L. 20, E-flat
K. 70, L. 50, B-Flat
K. 72, L. 401, C
K. 82, L. 30, F
K. 113, L. 345, A
K. 162, L. 21, E
K. 241, L. 180 , G
K. 377, L. 263 , b
K. 502, L. 3, C
K. 523, L. 490 , G
K. 525, L. 188 , F

Some of the above are quite nice in that they are not so full of trills!

Below are some web sites that help with Scarlatti research>

MIDI files of Scarlatti Sonatas:

By Longo Numbers http://www.midiworld.com/slindx.htm
By Kirkpatrick Numbers http://www.midiworld.com/skindx.htm

[ January 30, 2002: Message edited by: MacDuff ]

Piano & Music Gifts & Accessories (570)
Piano accessories and music gift items
#359131 - 01/30/02 10:59 AM Re: Scarlatti Thread
Rick Offline
500 Post Club Member

Registered: 08/01/01
Posts: 559
Loc: Chicago

I don't have access to all the numbers of my favorites right now, so I'll come back with more later. But, when it comes to slow and lyrical (and beautiful), I believe my favorite is L.33 (forgot the K number). Horowitz recorded it, but so have many others. If you didn't know better, you would think it was a romantic period piece. Pretty amazing, considering it was composed in, say, the 1730's. I believe there may be more than one "version" of that one to contend with. Another slower one (at least when I play it) is K.9. I really love that one. The one I play pretty well is K380(L23), which you mentioned. That is probably the most popular one (I think). Would that one (E-maj) be grouped with the fast ones or not? Just wondering.


#359132 - 01/30/02 01:20 PM Re: Scarlatti Thread
MacDuff Offline
500 Post Club Member

Registered: 05/26/01
Posts: 560
Loc: Southeast, U.S.A.
Groves dictionary says that the tempo of L. 23, K. 380 (E major) is “Andante commodo.” My understanding is that Scarlatti’s quick indications are not to be taken so fast and his slow indications as slow as we tend to play later literature today.

As much as I like to find works off the beaten track to play, I must admit that Scarlatti research is taking on a bit more than I care to wade through! I have the CD Sheet Music disk of PDF files of all the Scarlatti sonatas. While I find these to be treasures, I also start thinking, “Oh, great, yet another 3/8 time jiggy ditty.” So, it’s interesting to look at other people’s selections of Scarlatti and their particular take on what’s most interesting. James Friskin’s published selections and the recordings of Horowitz and Maria Tipo are a fascinating survey of Scarlatti works.

In Friskin vol. 1

L.104, 352, 387, 375, 487, 413, 461, 396, 486, 465, 366, 345

In Friskin vol. 2

L. 180, 263, 490, 23, 495, 433, 14, 103, 424, 384, 383, 205

Maria Tipo recorded

L. 375, 396, 286, 457, 288, 465, 387, 449, 487, 23, 474, 5

Horowitz recorded

L. 430, 483, 209, 424, 241, 188, 118, 349, 465, 21, 203, 22, 164, 187, 391, 23, 335

I once heard Vladimir Viardo play the following as an effective group in a recital

L. 415, 142, 422, 423, 495

A friend of mine did L. 8, 304, 82 as a nice group of three on her senior recital.

[ January 30, 2002: Message edited by: MacDuff ]

#359133 - 01/30/02 09:00 PM Re: Scarlatti Thread
Brendan Offline

Registered: 05/26/01
Posts: 5506
Loc: McAllen, TX
Have you seen the video of Argerich playing the d minor one with all of the repeated notes? Terrifies me to this day...

The f minor (can't remember the K #) is also beautiful.

#359134 - 01/30/02 10:10 PM Re: Scarlatti Thread
MacDuff Offline
500 Post Club Member

Registered: 05/26/01
Posts: 560
Loc: Southeast, U.S.A.
There's a Toccata in D Minor, K. 141/L. 422, that I still remember Viardo playing (couldn't see of his technique much from the nose-bleed balcony section).

#359135 - 02/01/02 11:41 PM Re: Scarlatti Thread
Palindrome Offline
3000 Post Club Member

Registered: 12/22/01
Posts: 3916
Loc: Chicago, IL USA
My favorite (for now, anyway) of the lyrical sonatas is L. suppl. 11/Kk. 415, No. 361 in Fadini/Ricordi's oddly numbered collection. Technically it's no strain, but musically it's very rich. Enjoy.
There is no end of learning. -Robert Schumann Rules for Young Musicians

#359136 - 02/05/02 12:14 AM Re: Scarlatti Thread
Rick Offline
500 Post Club Member

Registered: 08/01/01
Posts: 559
Loc: Chicago

My favorite slower pieces are: K430, K54, K32, K208, K213, K9 (wonderful), K87 (the best ever!), K11 (fantastic), K523, K8, K487, K481, K466, K322, and K246.


#359137 - 02/05/02 02:32 PM Re: Scarlatti Thread
MacDuff Offline
500 Post Club Member

Registered: 05/26/01
Posts: 560
Loc: Southeast, U.S.A.
Thanks for the responses, I'll look up all your suggestions. \:\)


Moderator:  Brendan, Kreisler 
Happy Thanksgiving!
Happy Thanksgiving!
Happy Thanksgiving to all our members and guests from the U.S.!
(ad) Yamaha CP4 or CP40 Free Bag
Buy a CP4 or CP40 Get a Free Bag
(ad 125) Sweetwater - Digital Keyboards & Other Gear
Digital Pianos at Sweetwater
(ads) PD - WNG - MH
Wessell Nickel & Gross
Ad (the Piano Store)
the Piano Store - Restored Steinway Pianos
(125ad) Dampp Chaser
Dampp Chaser Piano Life Saver
New Topics - Multiple Forums
Playing piano topless
by PhilipInChina
Yesterday at 11:08 PM
Students with A.D.D
by Elysia
Yesterday at 11:07 PM
Happy Belated Birthday Orange Soda King!
by pianoloverus
Yesterday at 04:13 PM
Special Thanks on this day to all the techs on PW
by chasingrainbows
Yesterday at 04:05 PM
Disney Piano Songs
by Marie101
Yesterday at 03:50 PM
What's Hot!!
Posting Pictures on the Forums
Forums Rules & Help
on Piano World

The world's most popular piano web site.
Forum Stats
81,560 Registered Members
44 Forums
168,589 Topics
2,469,966 Posts

Most users ever online: 15,252 @ 03/21/10 11:39 PM

Visit our online store for gifts for music lovers

Help keep the forums up and running with a donation, any amount is appreciated!
Or by becoming a Subscribing member! Thank-you.
Donate   Subscribe
Our Piano Related Classified Ads
Dealers | Tuners | Lessons | Movers | Restorations | Pianos For Sale | Sell Your Piano |

Advertise on Piano World
| Subscribe | Piano World | PianoSupplies.com | Advertise on Piano World | Donate | Link to Us | Classifieds |
| |Contact | Privacy | Legal | About Us | Site Map | Free Newsletter | Press Room |

copyright 1997 - 2015 Piano World ® all rights reserved
No part of this site may be reproduced without prior written permission