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Do you believe that the Chopin and Liszt studies can be worked on to much benefit by players not sufficiently technically advanced to play them "properly"?
i.e. by taking them slower and patiently working on them.
Also, which ones would be the most useful?
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Sure...nothing wrong with keeping an eye and a finger on the future.
Most useful?
Probably Chopin Op. 10#3, 4, 5, 10, 12, Op. 25#1, 2, 5, 9, 10, and the 3 posthumous
For Liszt, I'd suggest the Paganini and concert etudes.
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Honestly no. My philosophy is that if you can't play a piece properly, don't play it at all. Etudes offer no additional value over, say nocturnes, if you play them at a turtle pace. If you're going to play an etude like a nocturne (as an example), you might as well properly learn to play a nocturne.
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No. Do some Mozart or something, but ruining a Liszt or Chopin etude just makes you look horrible.
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Originally posted by Mikester: Etudes offer no additional value over, say nocturnes, if you play them at a turtle pace. Wrong. Etudes address a specific technical problem that can only be solved through practicing slowly; they are all about how you practice them, not how you perform them. That being said, you can certainly improve your technique by practicing etudes slowly, but I wouldn't program it unless you can play it well at tempo. The thirds etude is great for improving flexibility; I practice it (almost) every day. Whichever one you pick, make sure that you are relaxed when you play it or you will reach a speed barrier very quickly.
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true true, I meant playing it in a recital (btw. I'm Mikester). As practice material the Etudes are pretty valuable.
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I learned Chopin etudes to learn how to play.. Why - I don't know.. just did.
I have been interviewing possible teachers lately, and two have said essentially that my technique is incredible compared to my level of accomplishment... for what it's worth I think they are brilliant teaching pieces.
accompanist/organist.. a non-MTNA teacher to a few
love and peace, Õun (apple in Estonian)
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