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#368256 - 11/10/07 07:30 AM chopin etude op10 no4
blueweed Offline
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Registered: 01/02/07
Posts: 9
Loc: Singapore
hi guys, need some feedback on the following piece please. I am very interested to attempt this piece. I have in recent months completed debussy's arabesque, beethoven's pathetique movement 1 & 2, and most recently 90% done with chopin's fantasie impromptu.
I was originally thinking of etude op10 no3 and op25 no1(aeolian harp) to start with. but i find after sometime the tune of op10 no4 drew me more than the formers and I am willing to put up the fight as i thought the challenge would be well worth it.

May I get some advice from people that have attempted op10 no4? I can play fanasie impromptu to speed and handle pathetique as well, is this piece within my leauge or I run the risk of hitting a brick wall?

Thanks in advance for your advice.

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#368257 - 11/10/07 11:24 AM Re: chopin etude op10 no4
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This Etude is considerably more difficult than any of the pieces you mention that you have "completed".

Since we don't know how well you have "completed" these other pieces nor how long it has taken you to get them to where they are it's pretty difficult to predict with any degree of accuracy whether or not you can handle it.

The common sense advice would be either :
1) Try it, and see how it goes, or
2) Ask your teacher - or someone who knows your playing well - whether s/he thinks you are capable of successfully working on this Etude.

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#368258 - 11/10/07 11:35 AM Re: chopin etude op10 no4
Max W Offline
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I'd say it's a very 'dense' etude to start with, in the sense that there are a lot of notes to learn on top of the technical difficulties. It's one of the etudes that my patience seems to disagree with. As BruceD said, if you really want to learn it have a go, but personally I think you'd be better off exploring other repertoire.

#368259 - 11/10/07 12:58 PM Re: chopin etude op10 no4
pianist.ame Offline
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Registered: 05/18/07
Posts: 1166
Loc: Singapore
I would'nt reccomend starting off with this one, I did try that actually last year but then decided in the end to learn op.10 no.5&8 1st.

I am learning it now , just started it again and as both BruceD and Max said, you should ask your teacher

These are more suitable etudes to start off with:

op.10 no.3,6,12
op.25 no.1&2
or any of the three new etudes
Mastering:Chopin Etudes op.10 nos.8&12 and op.25 no.1, Chopin Scherzo no.4 in E major op.54, Mozart Sonata in B flat major K.333& Khachaturian Toccata

#368260 - 11/27/07 09:27 PM Re: chopin etude op10 no4
S.Thian Offline
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Registered: 11/26/07
Posts: 7
Loc: Kuching, Malaysia
Well,Debussy's arabesque, beethoven's pathetique movement 1 & 2, and chopin's fantasie impromptu are more easy pieces compared to that etude no.4...
The difference is like Performer Certificate to ATCL OR LTCL standard.

Anyway, Chopin's etudes are nice. Like Amelialw says--try the easier etudes first. Good luck.


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