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#368972 - 12/13/07 08:11 PM Rach 3 and flats=/= sharps
hyonchingonchon Offline
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These two questions have been bothering me today.

First, Lets say you play a piece in G flat Major. If the composer just happened to put a sharp on a g without naturals before in that measure, does the key become a g or a g sharp?

Second, for anyone who has seen or played the rach 3, what are the main time signatures in the final movement?


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#368973 - 12/13/07 08:32 PM Re: Rach 3 and flats=/= sharps
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Originally posted by hyonchingonchon:
First, Lets say you play a piece in G flat Major. If the composer just happened to put a sharp on a g without naturals before in that measure, does the key become a g or a g sharp?

Thanks! \:D [/b]
Can you give an example where a composer, writing in G flat major would write a G#? Unless the composer has modulated to another tonality, there is no G# in G flat major; the composer would write an A flat, but he certainly wouldn't write a G#, I don't think.

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#368974 - 12/13/07 08:45 PM Re: Rach 3 and flats=/= sharps
hyonchingonchon Offline
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im just saying if that happened?
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#368975 - 12/13/07 09:00 PM Re: Rach 3 and flats=/= sharps
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Originally posted by hyonchingonchon:
First, Lets say you play a piece in G flat Major. If the composer just happened to put a sharp on a g without naturals before in that measure, does the key become a g or a g sharp?

Second, for anyone who has seen or played the rach 3, what are the main time signatures in the final movement?
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I've seen some old editions (19th century) where sharps are used to cancel out flats: so G flat in the key signature, sharp sign before the note sometimes means to play G natural. But it's unusual--I think the old editions weren't consistent with this sort of thing. For any printed music you can buy nowadays, a G with a sharp sign really is a G sharp always.

Rach 3: what an odd question! Why do you want to know the time signatures if you don't have a copy of the score? Anyway, the beginning and the end is mostly in 2/2, and the middle section mostly in 4/4, but there are some short passages in 3/2 and 6/4.

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