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#379552 - 11/11/07 08:55 PM Chopin Etude Op.10 No.6 pedal
MOJOJOJO Offline
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Hi frds at PW,

I would like to know how you guys go about pedaling chopin op10 6, if u use any pedal at all...

thx
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#379553 - 11/11/07 11:41 PM Re: Chopin Etude Op.10 No.6 pedal
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I feel that the pedal needs to be used constantly in this Etude, but very, very carefully, as it does in so much of Chopin. For me, the LH sempre legatissimo has to be murmured softly at the opening; it has to be slightly veiled and the pedal will help give that effect. With no pedal, but even with good finger legato, it becomes a little too detached and a little too dry, for my taste, so I certainly advocate the use of the sustain pedal in this Etude.

However, one can't really dictate precisely when to pedal this, because it depends so much on the sustain of the particular piano one is playing on. Once one decides he is going to use pedal in this Etude, ones ear is always the best judge of just how much (how little) to use.

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#379554 - 11/12/07 07:04 AM Re: Chopin Etude Op.10 No.6 pedal
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 Quote:
Originally posted by BruceD:
I feel that the pedal needs to be used constantly in this Etude, but very, very carefully, as it does in so much of Chopin. For me, the LH sempre legatissimo has to be murmured softly at the opening; it has to be slightly veiled and the pedal will help give that effect. With no pedal, but even with good finger legato, it becomes a little too detached and a little too dry, for my taste, so I certainly advocate the use of the sustain pedal in this Etude.

However, one can't really dictate precisely when to pedal this, because it depends so much on the sustain of the particular piano one is playing on. Once one decides he is going to use pedal in this Etude, ones ear is always the best judge of just how much (how little) to use.

Regards, [/b]
Flawless answer!

I agree with Bruce, the opening needs a little pedal. Try playing very legato with your fingers and depress the pedal just a little. How much will be dependent on the room, instrument, and pianist. Don't forget, the pedal is more than an on/off switch.
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#379555 - 11/12/07 08:34 AM Re: Chopin Etude Op.10 No.6 pedal
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As an aside, here's a little tip about voicing/dynamic levels in this piece from Neuhaus's Art of Piano-Playing( p.74):

Chopin Etude in E flat minor, op. 10 (No.6). Foreground: melody; second level: bass, long notes lasting a whole bar or half a bar; third level: semiquaver movement in the middle part. If this natural three-level structure, which sometimes becomes four-part, is not observed, the whole composition becomes misty and unclear, regardless of the expressive way in which it might be played. I have had to explain it in class many times: very often the semiquavers of the middle part were played too loudly compared to the bass, the music lost its support and became 'legless.' It is very appropriate here to remember that Anton Rubenstein called the two fifth fingers "conductors" leading the music. The limits of sound (both upper and lower) are to music what the frame is to a picture... Although what I write here is elementary and generally known, yet it has to be repeated in class very frequently. There is obviously a considerable distance between knowing a thing and carrying it out (theory and practice, planning and implementing, knowing and doing.)

EDIT: Also remember that this is not a particularly slow piece, though many play it at nearly adagio speeds....look at the metronome mark, and remember that is the dotted minim (dotted half-note) pulse \:\)

-Michael B.
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#379556 - 11/12/07 06:57 PM Re: Chopin Etude Op.10 No.6 pedal
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thanks i agree 100 percent
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