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#381999 - 11/20/07 10:30 AM Re: Badass minor pieces
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The fact that dnephi's advice was heeded says it all.
Not really. Vanity can correct me if I'm wrong, but perhaps his acquiesce is only habitual since he may doubt the validity of his own emotions.

My statement still stands. [/b]
As does mine.

The basic point of my post was trying to say in a non-confrontational way that his post sounded unintelligible.
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It was unintelligible. Yesterday was just a bad day, a lot of things came up. I just needed to get it all out; too bad I was on pianoworld when it occured. It's was my fault for bringing up things that no one would understand or care about except for me and the person I was talking about's friends. Sorry. Things happen, I'll just try not to et them happen again.
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#382000 - 11/20/07 08:06 PM Re: Badass minor pieces
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Somewhat manageable and fitting would be Brahms's g minor rhapsody. Might achieve the drama you are looking for.

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#382001 - 11/21/07 12:12 AM Re: Badass minor pieces
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Anders39 started this out with a link to Lisa De La Salle's Prokofiev Toccata. I found it a bit dull. But YouTube also gave me this one, which is really stunning:

Toccata - Claire Huangci
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#382002 - 11/21/07 12:17 AM Re: Badass minor pieces
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Originally posted by Palindrome:
Anders39 started this out with a link to Lisa De La Salle's Prokofiev Toccata. I found it a bit dull. But YouTube also gave me this one, which is really stunning:

Toccata - Claire Huangci [/b]
Well, it's certainly fast! She's missing something(s), though. But I can't complain too much, because it's certainly an incredible technical feat for a 16-year-old (for an anything-year-old).
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#382003 - 11/21/07 10:30 AM Re: Badass minor pieces
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Thanks for the suggestions everybody. \:D

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Anders39 started this out with a link to Lisa De La Salle's Prokofiev Toccata. I found it a bit dull. But YouTube also gave me this one, which is really stunning:

Toccata - Claire Huangci [/b]
I liked that version too, although I think the dynamics is a little bit of a sudden. Awesome speed btw.

My teacher and I started on the Toccata today.
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#382004 - 11/21/07 10:38 AM Re: Badass minor pieces
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Seriously, nobody mentioned Mazeppa? (Liszt's TE #4 in bad*** D minor)

It's intense and very mean sounding. After all, it's about a story involving cruel torture and attempted murder. It will tear your head off and hand it back to you after playing football with it, and that's before you get 1/3 of the way into it.

You need to be somewhat physically fit to play it, too. I'm doing an intense 90-day cross-training workout program which I think will help me better cope with the physical demands of this piece. (I'm not joking.)

This is me trying to play it:
Mazeppa
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#382005 - 11/21/07 11:32 AM Re: Badass minor pieces
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Actually, I can't believe I forgot the transcendental etudes. Nearly all the minor keys fit the description, especially Mazeppa, Wilde Jagd, No. 2 in A minor, and Chasse Neige.

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#382006 - 11/21/07 03:38 PM Re: Badass minor pieces
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Actually, I can't believe I forgot the transcendental etudes. Nearly all the minor keys fit the description, especially Mazeppa, Wilde Jagd, No. 2 in A minor, and Chasse Neige. [/b]
They've all been brought up a few times, but thanks.

I can't believe I forget Reger's Variations and Fugue on a Theme Of Bach, Op. 81 and Szymanowski Sonata #2.

Absolutely titanic.
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#382007 - 11/22/07 03:57 AM Re: Badass minor pieces
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Basically, Messiaen's Vingt Regards No. 6, sur l'enfant jésus

That's a good angsty piece that luckily isn't too difficult to learn.
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#382008 - 11/22/07 08:24 AM Re: Badass minor pieces
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Basically, Messiaen's Vingt Regards No. 6, sur l'enfant jésus

That's a good angsty piece that luckily isn't too difficult to learn. [/b]
Ahahahaha, what?
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#382009 - 11/22/07 12:15 PM Re: Badass minor pieces
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Originally posted by Jeff135:
Basically, Messiaen's Vingt Regards No. 6, sur l'enfant jésus

That's a good angsty piece that luckily isn't too difficult to learn. [/b]
Ahahahaha, what? [/b]
8) There's really nothing by Messiaen that's easy, but Par Lui Tout a Ete Fait is pretty near impossible. \:D
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#382010 - 11/22/07 09:39 PM Re: Badass minor pieces
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There's really nothing by Messiaen that's easy, but Par Lui Tout a Ete Fait is pretty near impossible.
Yikes, yes.

Then again, organists don't have it much easier. Try Combat de la Mort et de la Vie from Messiaen's "Les Corps Glorieux".

Astounding. The final taper is one of the most mystically extended moments in all of music. Light the Roman Catholic candles, pour a glass of Merlot, have a cigarette (oops, England is non-smoking now), then let yourself flow with Messiaen's timelessness.

Pianists who only know Messiaen's music for their own instrument are simply missing the big picture. Would any of us tolerate a choral conductor making great claims for Beethoven without reference to the piano, symphonic or chamber works?

Ultimately I suspect Messiaen will live by his organ works. His heavy -and uncompromising Catholicism- tends to wilt on the vine when taken outside of the Church.
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#382011 - 11/23/07 07:51 AM Re: Badass minor pieces
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And one more thing- that piece is modal, not minor, so it can't fit the requirements of this thread.
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#382012 - 11/24/07 12:52 PM Re: Badass minor pieces
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here is michelangeli playing the funeral march of chopin.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NXTvdepqgYg&feature=related

i love michelangeli's interpretation.
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#382013 - 11/26/07 07:56 AM Re: Badass minor pieces
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I clearly second Mazeppa...It's very mean sounding...

Man...I'm trying to play it at the moment and it really wears me off when I reach the middle part...Even worse than when I'd play Chopin's 10/1,10/2,25/6,25/11,25/12 all at the same time...

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#382014 - 11/27/07 09:57 PM Re: Badass minor pieces
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The hut on Chickens legs a.k.a Baba Yaga(Mussorgsky pictures at an exhibition)


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q2pWvLd0eK0
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