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#406024 - 12/07/07 01:33 PM
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Part of my music course requires me (and the others who took music) to sit an exam that tests our listening abilities. This is my weakest area, I usualy only get around 60 - 70 %, which is ok, but not fantastic, so I would like to push myself further in order to acheive better grades. Although our teacher tells us about different musical devices, he doesn't really explain what they do in the music. The hardest part of the exam is when a piece of music is played and we have to pick out the musical devices used in the piece and then explain what "atmosphere" it gives the music and how. Picking out the devices isn't too bad but trying to put what it does for the music is quite difficult (for me). I was wondering if there were any general patterns for certain devices used in music that provide the listener with an inflicted atmosphere. For example:
1.) A pedal is a sustained or repeated note in the bass (usualy), an inverted pedal is a sustained or repeated note higher up on the grand staff. But how does a pedal inflict a mood? does a pedal allways create tension?
2.) Imitation is where a phrase is repeated with a small variation to make it more interesting than the first (original) time. How can a repeated phrase inflict a certain atmosphere or feeling?
3.) Sequencing is similar to imitation except the phrase is repeated at a different pitch.
Thats a handful of musical devices I can think of, but trying to explain WHAT the acheive in the music is very hard... any tips?
In the exam they played the theme from harry potter, and asked what musical devices made it sound "magical"... I wasn't really sure how to approach the question... I mean what does make it sound magical and mysterious?
Any advice on handeling questions like this would be GREATLY appreciated...
Thanks all,
C H O P I N
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#406025 - 12/07/07 02:34 PM
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Interesting question, but wow, most of this stuff is just intuitive, and so I never sat down and pinpointed what it does, so here goes:
1) Pedal doesn't always create tension. It can also be very calming, like a drone. It would have to depend upon the context in which it is used. For example, if you have a piece that has harmonic motion to it and all of a sudden you have a pedal, then it will create tension until that harmony changes. However, if a piece begins with this, it will most likely set up a drone-like effect, making it seem very calm and unmoving.
2) Imitation/repetition in this case is not assigned to any particular feeling. Repetition is found in nature and so we repeat because it gives clarity to what is being said (whatever feeling that may be). The human brain is designed to pick up on patterns, so this device makes it interesting for the listener as well. But clarity and interest in and of themselves are not feelings. They are just a qualities.
3) Same as above. The more variation in a repetition, the more interest it gives the listener, like a puzzle to figure out the pattern.
As far as what musical devices make the harry potter theme sound magical (without having heard it recently), my guess would be the harmonic structure (use of secondary chords), instrumentation, and allusions to pieces we already associate with "magical".
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#406026 - 12/07/07 04:02 PM
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Thanks Morodiene, the questions we get are suprisingly difficult, and hitting exatly what the examiners want as answers seems to be very hard indeed. They also played us the james bond theme (about 5 times) and we had to fill in a table. One side of the table said "musical devices used" the other said "the atmosphere it creates".... I lost count of how many times I repeated myself, saying "so and so made the music exciting"
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#406028 - 12/08/07 10:57 AM
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You're having trouble on the second part because you're taking it too seriously and thinking that there actually some real significance to it. There is none. This is just typical academic bull___ and has no real-world meaning. The way to get good grades is to simply parrot back what the teacher wants you to say. Trying to strain yourself, looking for a meaningful answer, is useless, because there is no meaningful answer except what the teacher wants to hear--from your lectures, class discussions, textbook, etc., you need to figure out what kind of answers the teacher wants, and then simply give him these kinds of answers, even if they might seem completely stupid.
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#406029 - 12/08/07 11:16 AM
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Gyro,
Why would professors teach this "typical academic bull____" if it doesn't make any sense, if it isn't meaningful, and if it is just "completely stupid"? How would they even come up with it in the first place, if it didn't make some meaningful sense to them?
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#406030 - 12/08/07 03:41 PM
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Although Gyro's post may seem "out of the box" it does seem to have a ring of truth... Firstly Let me answer Morodiene. GCSE music consists of a group of kids (some with musical backgounds and a handful with none). To get the GCSE in music we have to compose a piece of music (25%) perform a solo piece and an ensemble piece (25%) then work at an "integrated assignment" which is a mixture of all 3 skills, which is also worth 25%. Finally we have the listening paper. Also 25%.
So to answer your question, nope it's not a composition class, I wish it was! By the looks of things the examiners seem to want a musical device that does one thing... There doesn't seem to be any prizes for your own opinions, and how it makes you feel (because the papers are marked from example answers!!!!) In that respect Gyro's point appears to be right, tell them what they want to hear. But what DO they want to hear?
Seems rediculous to me.
C H O P I N
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#406032 - 12/09/07 09:31 AM
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I believe I'm on AQA, not OCR (my ICT is OCR though) Finding what they want to hear is quite difficult sometimes, and I do need a comprehensive list like you suggested, wether or not my teacher has one or not, we'll see.
In the James Bond question, with the table, I listed imitation as a musical device, (the tune repeats a lot with different instruments and variations) but I was at a loss on how to explain "what atmosphere" it provides. I mean, surely I'd have to put something like: "The phrase that is repeated gives an atmosphere of excitement throughout the piece" ?
There was also alot of dissonance, Usualy dissonance is used to cause distress, or in this case it seemed to be used as a resolution to the piece's musical climaxes.
Furthermore I ended up repeating my self alot ( especially in these paticular styled questions), the piece was exciting throughout, so what am I supposed to put under "atmosphere" when all of the devices appear to do simillar things?
Cheers,
C H O P I N
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#406034 - 12/09/07 12:57 PM
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This sounds more like a music philosophy class than a practical music class.
But I think I know what your instructor is looking for. Music is made up of different textures. By adding and subracting and controlling these textures in different ways through rhythm, tempo, and dynamics, music can represent different moods.
A good example would be the use of repeated strings in a disonant key to represent tension. Dissonance alone creates tension, but by repeating this with stringed instruments, the tension can build up more. Think "Jaws" or some other scary movie where the strings are used like this.
Musical textures can also be used to represent other devices such as bells and tambourines when they are not available on the piano, for example. Mozart does this in his Rondo a la Turca with the arpeggiated bass line and grace notes. These represent the drums and tambourines in a Turkish march.
Scarlatti did this too with his keyboard sonatas. He used batteries of chords and gracenote configurations to represent flutes, drums, and even guitars as he was influenced by the local Spanish music where he lived.
Anyway this is something to think about a little deeper, and probably takes a lot more thought than the one off answers you're coming up with for your exams.
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#406035 - 12/11/07 01:30 PM
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4A4D4E24jOU unfortunately not the version I heard in my exam, from what I can remember the version I heard had electric guitars, and cymbals (much rockyer and much more exciting), and started with a pedal, and then jumped into the faster theme. However, i'd still like to hear you're example answers keyboardklutz, any help would be much appreciated. Thanks everyone for your help, C H O P I N
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#406037 - 12/11/07 04:05 PM
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Right, good idea i'll do them, the four themes I spotted were: 1) The opening theme, which is a chromatic ostinato (going upwards). The tonality of this introduction is minor. When the new instrument comes in, it plays a variation over the top of the ostinato, about 3 times - imitation? 2) The piece reaches it's main theme, with the same (chromatic) ostinato underneath. Dissonance is used where the theme reaches its climaxes. I think I also heard sound effects in the background of the music to. 3) The next theme uses an imitation of the same phrase around 3 times, and I think the melody of this part could be defined as "call and answer" because one instrument starts the tune (calls?) and another finishes it (answer?) 4) Theme 4 repeats the opening theme, with a slight variation over the ostinato. A fanfare sequence of one paticular phrase is introduced to bring the piece to a clause. The piece ends on a dissonant chord. Well I gave that my best shot, it's probably poor, however if I know where I've gone wrong now, I'll be more prepared for the next time, and thats my aim. Thanks for taking the time to help me, it's much appreciated. C H O P I N PS - just looked at the posted message, it now looks like each theme hasnt been explained "in detail" at all 
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#406038 - 12/11/07 04:35 PM
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As I said try and draw the themes (I think the guitar theme is no 2 - I think you've got it as no 1 -you do give a good reason for your view, but without the detail. Outside of an exam (i. e. with unlimited listenings) it should be easy for you to give bar numbers. That's very important - it means everyones looking at the same thing.
The musical elements (and you should know this) are: Pitch, duration, dynamics, tempo, texture, timbre and structure. Remember them as: P, double D, triple T , S and write that at the top of your sheet at the beginning of the exam.
I would quickly draw a spreadsheet - 7 columns for the elements and 4 rows for the themes. Do one theme at a time - not every element will need to be covered. All you then need add is how each adds to the atmosphere.
How many marks? You want one good point per mark.
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#406039 - 12/12/07 12:05 PM
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After practising with the spreadsheet, I imagine it will get easier and easier, until I dont need to draw one?
I'll make suer I remember those elements, I listed the "devices" used (canon, imitation etc), they're obviously not the same thing, READ THE QUESTION PROPERLY, is the first lesson I've learnt.
I'll get practising soon.
Thanks
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#406041 - 12/12/07 03:46 PM
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so, the musical ELEMENTS are (like you said) Pitch, Duration, Dynamics, Tempo, Texture, Timbre and Structure. Pitch - how high or low a note is (according to the grand stave), If I was listening for "pitch" would I be listening for changes in pitch? (doesn't music constantly change pitch...) Duration - (note duration is the length of time a note or chord is held) and the duration of the music is the lenght for which it lasts. Dynamics - They are the degrees of volume within the music, for example "forte and piano" are two different examples of dynamics Tempo - The speed of the music. Many pieces include changes in tempo, and of course; "tempo rubato." Texture - The general "feeling" of the piece (rough, staccato, smooth, legato),also different textures include, monophony, polyphony, and homophony (I think). Texture can also be described with terms such as "contrapuntal", "broadly harmonic" etc etc Timbre - Timbre is what gives a note it's quality of sound, individual voices or instruments all carry a different timbre, for example your Steinway will have a different Timbre to my Yamaha Structure - Musical form? the way in which the music is organized, to name a few forms, theres Binary; AABB, Tennary; ABA, Rondo form; ABACA... Sonata form; (Introduction), Exposition, Development, Recapitulation, (Coda) I think those definitions are about right... (fingers crossed), but how could you put "pitch" into your answer, if the question (like the one you gave me) asked "describe the musical elements of this piece of music" - what could you say about the pitch? (tritone?) Sorry I'm working you hard keyboardklutz, but your help's already proving invaluble, unfortunately I don't have a very good music teacher at school, which I won't get into. Thankyou for your help! (again) C H O P I N
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#406044 - 12/13/07 12:00 PM
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Thanks for your help everyone, I know what you mean Morodiene, it's very confusing. The probelm is allways putting them into words - bullet points like keyboardklutz suggested is a very good idea. Guess i've just gotta get on with it.
One more question for keyboardklutz: If a question asks for "musical effects" caould that mean both elements and devices?
Thanks
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#406045 - 12/13/07 12:48 PM
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CHOPIN,
Search on the "ELEMENTS OF MUSIC" and more than you ever wanted to know will come up. Skim through for keywords and create your categories for further study from there.
Devise a worksheet of how you will examine and write about all things. Ask questions. Answer questions. Use outline form, or check off boxes.
The "Essential Dictionary of Music" by Alfred Publishing Company, is a small reference book of vocabulary, theory, composers bio's. It costs about $4.95 and can be found in many music stores in the US, or ordered on life. It's easy to use and simplistic in definitions. This might help you organize your work.
So you are getting lots of interest and help here with which to do your enlightened listening.
One thing I've noticed when shopping is how avidly my ear listens to anything being played - and because of listening capacity (analysis) just about everything captivates me, whether I want to go there or not. This kind of thing is a form of "entrainment".
Betty
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#406047 - 12/13/07 02:30 PM
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You seem to have some confusion about how pitch can be a musical element. One person mentioned diatonic vs. chromatic which is certainly one possibility, but no one has mentioned register. Low strings communicates one thing, piccolos something quite different.
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#406048 - 12/13/07 03:09 PM
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Thankyou very much Betty, and thankyou Keyboardklutz and Mr Chandler, I think you've all done as much as you can to set me on the right path, everyones help in this thread has proved, or certainley will prove invaluble to me.
Thanks again,
C H O P I N
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