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#410046 - 11/08/04 06:41 AM
Re: Yet another pointless poll: Least favorite Beethoven sonatas
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There aren't many I don't like. Though I could have been put off certain ones by bad performances, had I only heard certain recordings etc.
Actually, there are none that I don't like; my least favourite literally would be only "least favourite".
Op.2 No.1 Op.10 No.2 Op.49 No.1 (hardly a sonata though really) Op.49 (I quite like it but rarely listen to it) Op.90 (I've actually played this, but I've gone off it.)
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#410048 - 11/08/04 07:40 AM
Re: Yet another pointless poll: Least favorite Beethoven sonatas
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I would have to say Hammerklavier. It's all banging, and as your teacher says, banging is bad.
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#410050 - 11/08/04 08:15 AM
Re: Yet another pointless poll: Least favorite Beethoven sonatas
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I get so thoroughly sick of hearing the first movement of the moonlight sonata! agh! *plugs ears* I have a recording of it by Kempff, which is lovely, but goodness... too many students try to play it, and they don't do overly well and it's boring as all get out!
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#410052 - 11/08/04 09:36 AM
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My teacher refuses to teach Pathetique and Moonlight anymore. He says - with a tinge of disappointment in Beethoven =) - that the Moonlight 3rd movement is basically an arpeggio etude.
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#410053 - 11/08/04 10:52 AM
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Op. 49 No. 1
Thats it. Oh and the Pathetique.
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#410055 - 11/08/04 11:29 AM
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You guys are crazy. Hammerklavier rocks
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#410061 - 11/08/04 02:14 PM
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My preference for Beethoven's sonatas varies with the time of day. However, the first one in C major (op 2 no 3) is probably the one I like the least, most of the time. The Scherzo-Trio of that sonata is ok though.
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#410062 - 11/08/04 03:53 PM
Re: Yet another pointless poll: Least favorite Beethoven sonatas
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Originally posted by Allazart:  My preference for Beethoven's sonatas varies with the time of day. However, the first one in C major (op 2 no 3) is probably the one I like the least, most of the time. The Scherzo-Trio of that sonata is ok though. [/b] Oddly enough, op.2 no.3 is among my favourites.
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#410063 - 11/08/04 03:55 PM
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Originally posted by NAK: OMFG teh moonlight sonata is teh rox0rs lol!!111 [/b] OMG LOL ROFL LIEK I NO U HAX IT LOL ROFL STFU@!@!1one1!!!eleven!!!1
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#410064 - 11/08/04 04:02 PM
Re: Yet another pointless poll: Least favorite Beethoven sonatas
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Originally posted by CrashTest: Originally posted by NAK: OMFG teh moonlight sonata is teh rox0rs lol!!111 [/b] OMG LOL ROFL LIEK I NO U HAX IT LOL ROFL STFU@!@!1one1!!!eleven!!!1 [/b] LOL yu0 guY5z r n00bs. m00n1light 15 73h suXX0r5z
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#410065 - 11/08/04 04:05 PM
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Anyone else had enough of the L33t speak? Anyway, back on topic: I guess the one I like least would be Op.79. I learned it when I was 12, and I played it SO much. Same with thing with Mozart K331 - severely over-played.
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#410067 - 11/08/04 04:18 PM
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Originally posted by iamcanadian:  Anyone else had enough of the L33t speak?  [/b] uH n0, 1337sp33k 15 73h r0xx0r5z
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#410068 - 11/08/04 04:19 PM
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Oddly enough, op.2 no.3 is among my favourites
Yeah, it's interesting how different musical preference can be. I'm quite fond of at least 4 out of the 5 sonatas the original poster mentioned, especially op54.
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#410069 - 11/08/04 06:45 PM
Re: Yet another pointless poll: Least favorite Beethoven sonatas
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Originally posted by iamcanadian:  Anyone else had enough of the L33t speak?  [/b] l0l m0z4r7 w4s t3h 1337x0rz 1n 1337 5p33k.  Same with thing with Mozart K331 - severely over-played. [/b] Have you heard Gould's recording of the K331?
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#410070 - 11/08/04 07:27 PM
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(L33t sucks it's so lame it's not even stylish....)
i don't like the second sonata.
on the other hand my favorite one it's the waldstein... not doubt on it.
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#410071 - 11/08/04 08:48 PM
Re: Yet another pointless poll: Least favorite Beethoven sonatas
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Originally posted by Allazart: Oddly enough, op.2 no.3 is among my favourites
Yeah, it's interesting how different musical preference can be. I'm quite fond of at least 4 out of the 5 sonatas the original poster mentioned, especially op54. [/b] Again, I LOVE Op. 54. I prefer it to Op. 53.
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#410072 - 11/09/04 03:42 PM
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Pointless but quite interesting poll  Mine's a bit similar to that of the original poster. Op 49#2 Op 10#2 Op 14#1 Op 14#2 Op 31#3 I like the rest except final rondos of Op 2#2, Op 10#3, Op 22 and Op 31#1...
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#410073 - 11/09/04 09:23 PM
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I don't particularly enjoy of Op. 49 No. 1 and op.2 no.3.  I get so thoroughly sick of hearing the first movement of the moonlight sonata! agh! *plugs ears* I have a recording of it by Kempff, which is lovely, but goodness... too many students try to play it, and they don't do overly well and it's boring as all get out![/b] Unfortunately, the first movement of the moonlight sonata has been incredibly over played as well. It was one of the first Beethoven sonatas that I learned to play. I still have a fondness for it. :p
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#410074 - 11/09/04 09:26 PM
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Originally posted by iamcanadian:  Same with thing with Mozart K331 - severely over-played. [/b] Doesn't mean it's a bad piece.
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#410075 - 11/09/04 10:13 PM
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Originally posted by Brendan: Originally posted by iamcanadian:  Same with thing with Mozart K331 - severely over-played. [/b] Doesn't mean it's a bad piece. [/b] No offense intended. I love that sonata, but I played it too much.
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#410076 - 11/10/04 12:08 AM
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op.57 Appassionata (No.23 in F-). Wonderful
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#410077 - 11/10/04 07:31 AM
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Least favorite: Opus 10 Number 2.
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#410078 - 11/11/04 02:07 AM
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Originally posted by SoftwareResearch:  What are your 5 least favorite Beethoven piano sonatas? Here's my list: Op. 14 No. 1[/b] I played this one. It's certainly one of the easiest. Beethoven also arranged it for String Quartet which gives a lot of insight on it. It really needs a very strong dynamic range, dramatic decrescendos and the melodies have to be voiced much louder than the other parts to work. Still there are too many other sonatas way better than this one. Another one that I'm working on I like but it's still in the least favorite category: Op 2 No 3. It's too long--a full half an hour or more in many recordings! The second movement is nice but goes on forever, the first movement repeats way too much, the third movement is short and concise with a dramatic Trio, but then the last movement is repetitive again. It's very orchestral and has to be played that way or it's very boring. Much of this one was one of Beethoven's very early String Quartets; a lot of that kind of distinct sonority is difficult to translate onto the piano. As a whole though, the sonatas are some of the most thoroughly enjoyable music in the repertoire. Some just are forgettable compared to the best of them though.
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#410079 - 11/11/04 03:11 AM
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I love them all. So I can't reply.
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#410080 - 11/11/04 03:05 PM
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I've sometimes heard the complaint that beethoven's rondo finales are too repetitive and the rondo themes too long. I've never held that opinion and several of his rondos are my favorite movements in the sonatas (love op22's finale). What I do think is that his allegretto finales are sometimes played way too slowly (like andante, when allegretto is really 'rather fast') to the extent that they drag and do become boring.
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#410081 - 01/26/05 05:14 PM
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least fave
op14 no 1 op 31 no 1 op 49 op2 no 2
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#410082 - 01/27/05 03:22 PM
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Op. 14 No.2 in G However, the second movement is almost amusing.
Op. 13 in c minor is too cliche.
The first movement of Op. 27 no. 1 is irritating to me, but I enjoy the other movements (the third mov't is especially nice as a slow movement).
Op. 79 sounds childish in comparison to the rest of his Sonatas.
hmmm.. that's all that come to mind, really. I don't not appreciate any of the above, Beethoven was a genius.
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#410083 - 01/27/05 04:29 PM
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I don't seem to like Op. 111 as much as most people. Not sure why, I've heard plenty of excellent performances and understand the work in its historical context, but it just doesn't grab me as much as it seems to grab others.
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