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Originally posted by pianojerome: Originally posted by Piana Justice: [b] the Presto Adagio. Which presto? Which adagio?
[/b]the Fantasia one in C# Minor, by Beethoven, which is really fast, that i may try to learn next year, when i'm a more advanced.
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Originally posted by Piana Justice: Originally posted by pianojerome: [b] Originally posted by Piana Justice: [b] the Presto Adagio. Which presto? Which adagio? [/b] the Fantasia one in C# Minor, by Beethoven, which is really fast, that i may try to learn next year, when i'm a more advanced. [/b]Are you referring to the last movement (Presto agitato) of the Moonlight Sonata? If so, great piece - but hardly the most difficult ever.
What you are is an accident of birth. What I am, I am through my own efforts. There have been a thousand princes and there will be a thousand more. There is one Beethoven.
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Originally posted by Allazart: I think I'm going to write a very difficult piece. Shouldn't be too difficult.
I don't claim it's the most difficult but here's something that's quite challenging (mainly due to the tempo) but very musical (IMO).
Alkan's 'comme le vent'. His metronome mark is 'quaver = 160' and the dominant note values are triplet demisemiquavers so you have to fit 6 of them into each tick for about 4 minutes.
Very impetuous tempo, but it really does sound 'like the wind' at that speed. It's a pretty funny piece too (you almost want to laugh when listening to it) Yeah, I can't even imagine how people can play it, plus theres the huge task of actually reading all the notes
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I think i'm writing some significantly difficult pieces right now, i should have some PDFs up in a few weeks since now i'm back in the good ol composition classes again. my vote for hardest piece would definitely have to be The Faeries's Aire and Death Waltz by John Stump. (To whoever knows the piece i'm talking about)...Who wants to dare me to try and score it into Finale/Scorch and see what it sounds like!?
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Oy, kcoul, that piece is a monster!
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Originally posted by 8ude: Another notable mention would be Sorabji's Opus Clavicembalisticum. Yeah, the O.C. is really ridiculous, but it's actually not his longest or hardest work. The Symphonic Variations for solo piano supposedly takes 540 minutes and is even more consistently difficult, but I don't think anybody has ever played it.
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no, i'm not referring to the last movement of the Moolight sonata. it's really fast. if you go to http://www.musicnotes.com/ , then you'll know what i'm talking about.
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what are you referring to then? musicnotes helps me not.
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me either - a little more help...
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My guess is you are referring to the third movement of the Moonlight Sonata. It's the only thing that makes sense. I think you just misunderstand the term movement.
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Piana Justice, I searched that website, and found four pieces called "Adagio and Presto", by four different composers. Are you referring to one of these? That website doesn't list any piece by Beethoven called "Presto adagio" "Presto" and "adagio" are simply tempo markings, and they are used in many, many, many compositions. They generally aren't the title of the piece, so a number of us on this forum are a little confused about which piece you are referring to!
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Originally posted by Piana Justice: no, i'm not referring to the last movement of the Moolight sonata. it's really fast. The last movement of the Moonlight Sonata (Sonata quasi fantasia in C-sharp minor) by Beethoven is very fast. And it's marked "Presto agitato".
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Since the question is "what is the most difficult", not "what is the most difficult but still quality?", i will have to say Sorabji. As far as technical difficulty goes, it's nigh impossible, but i personally think his music is crap quality-wise. To me, the BEST difficult piece is the Hammerklavier. It's musically awesome, not just technically grueling.
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just went and found this. IMPOSSIBLE!!! some of that stuff is just him making pretty patterns with notes on pages (surely?!?). NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!! it can't be!!! I REFUSE to believe it (or something). Anyway, point is I'm not going to be playing THAT piece. Would love to hear it though...
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oh dear... that didn't work out... how do i get the pic to display properly?!? but in any case... go search google for "The Faeries's Aire and Death Waltz by John Stump sheet music." take the first link you find with a .jpg extension. NOOOOOOOOOO... KCOUL058... i def dare u to test it with finale. it'll crash!! sorry for all the lines of babbling, but i am completely dumbstruck!!
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there!! that naaaaaaasty piece of music! (i hope)
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"Remove cattle from stage" "Water pedal" "Release the penguins" "Insert peanuts" "Balance your chair on two legs" "Moon walk" "Spam" ...
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That was simply wonderful. I liked the "arranged by accident" part. Even my 9 year old got a kick out of reading all the instructions. But, pianojerome, you left out my favorite: "begin turning flame higher and higher".
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I have no idea how you would go about plating that, geqo.
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Originally posted by Monica Kern: But, pianojerome, you left out my favorite: "begin turning flame higher and higher". I think only "light explosives now ... and ... now" can top that.
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