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#429628 - 06/16/05 07:01 AM Brahms Piano Quintet in F minor????
***musical princess*** Offline
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I don't know if many people will know this piece but i'm just about finished learning the piano part and im having a real problem. I recently heard a recording of this piece and the semiquaver passage from bars 5-10 should be fairly fast but very legato. Try as i might, i just can't get it at the right spead and play it as smoothly as it should be played. Anybody got any ideas? Also, how do you play the Cmaj arpeggio up the keyboard as fast as the piece requires? If anyone has any experience of this piece i would very, very much apreciate their input. Thanx. x
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#429629 - 06/16/05 08:37 AM Re: Brahms Piano Quintet in F minor????
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Or if anyone wants to just pretend they now it... i would be equally as gratefull to chat to someone about it...? x
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#429630 - 06/16/05 08:54 AM Re: Brahms Piano Quintet in F minor????
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Try it slowly and work up to speed.

Are you playing it with a quartet, or just learning it? If you are just learning it, you might find another pianist and play it as the sonata. Then you don't have to worry about dynamics.

The real difficulty comes in the scherzo. The repeated notes should sound like a machine gun. Even good pianists have trouble with that.

The best recording is still the first one, with Harold Bauer and the Flonzaley Quartet, despite the ancient sound. The playing is wonderful!
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#429631 - 06/16/05 09:07 AM Re: Brahms Piano Quintet in F minor????
***musical princess*** Offline
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Thanx BDB. I'm not playing it with aquartet, no. I've only got one friend who plays the piano seriously and when i showed it to him he laughed (in a nice way) and told me i was braver than him so i doubt he'd be a willing partner. I might try and persuade him though! I'll look out for that recording, too. The one i heard was by the Karadar Bertoldi Ensemble but apparently Richter did an incredible recording of it aswell. x
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#1446832 - 05/30/10 07:22 PM Re: Brahms Piano Quintet in F minor???? [Re: ***musical princess***]
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Know this one very well, even played it in the 2-piano version, very good alternative btw, what edition do you use?
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#1446856 - 05/30/10 07:46 PM Re: Brahms Piano Quintet in F minor???? [Re: dolce sfogato]
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This thread is 5 years old!! I doubt that girl is still here.
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#1446863 - 05/30/10 07:53 PM Re: Brahms Piano Quintet in F minor???? [Re: Pogorelich.]
dolce sfogato Offline
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so you remember threads that old? quite a feat, and no honours.
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#1446866 - 05/30/10 07:55 PM Re: Brahms Piano Quintet in F minor???? [Re: dolce sfogato]
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It's not a case of remembering. Look at the dates. You're obviously going back into the archives to dig up some of these. What's the point?
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#1446870 - 05/30/10 07:57 PM Re: Brahms Piano Quintet in F minor???? [Re: BruceD]
dolce sfogato Offline
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I never look at dates, just content, so i'll have to change my totally spontanuous reactons to something more wary?
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#1446873 - 05/30/10 08:00 PM Re: Brahms Piano Quintet in F minor???? [Re: dolce sfogato]
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Originally Posted By: dolce sfogato
I never look at dates, just content, so i'll have to change my totally spontanuous reactons to something more wary?


No, just a little common sense.
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#1446875 - 05/30/10 08:01 PM Re: Brahms Piano Quintet in F minor???? [Re: BruceD]
dolce sfogato Offline
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thx a 1.000.0000, how can that old stuff suddenly reappear?
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#1446880 - 05/30/10 08:04 PM Re: Brahms Piano Quintet in F minor???? [Re: dolce sfogato]
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Originally Posted By: dolce sfogato
thx a 1.000.0000, how can that old stuff suddenly reappear?


Did you inadvertently change your preferences to show threads in reverse order (oldest to newest) instead of newest to oldest? That would account for old threads showing up and would explain why you are answering them.

Regards,
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#1446882 - 05/30/10 08:05 PM Re: Brahms Piano Quintet in F minor???? [Re: BruceD]
dolce sfogato Offline
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well, I don't know, and i will now sort that out, immediately, and let you know....
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#1446883 - 05/30/10 08:10 PM Re: Brahms Piano Quintet in F minor???? [Re: dolce sfogato]
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I know Musical Princess from another forum where she still posts occasionally. I'll tell her that she has a stalker admirer who bumps her threads here.

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#1446890 - 05/30/10 08:17 PM Re: Brahms Piano Quintet in F minor???? [Re: Phlebas]
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back to real time, i hope?
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