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Pollini in the 1960s and 70s was better than Uchida, but he has been getting worse ever since. My opinion of course.
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Originally posted by Kreisler: Unfortunately, he can also play very badly and the public doesn't complain. And that's not the way piano playing should be. Inwhat way does he play bad? All artists have their good and bad points(except for Gould who was altogether perfect), but I don't see anything that would make him exceptionally bad.
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Search for the other Lang Lang threads, and you'll get your full share of the argument. Just please don't bring it up again; we've already all had our full share...hehe
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Originally posted by Contrapunctus: All artists have their good and bad points(except for Gould who was altogether perfect)[/QB] WHOA...
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Yundi Li has won some prestigious piano competitions. I'm not sure whether Lang Lang has done the same though.
Personally I enjoy listening to both players.
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Originally posted by snap_apple: Originally posted by Contrapunctus: All artists have their good and bad points(except for Gould who was altogether perfect) WHOA... Exactly - you're way off on that one.
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This asian thread stuff reminds me. Did anyone see the little six year old asian kid play the mozart variation on Leno last night? I thought his performance was definately lacking. He was only six. Then again he was introduced as a prodigy. I think I could have done better. If I were in the audience I would have stepped forward and shown him up.
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quote: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Originally posted by Contrapunctus: All artists have their good and bad points(except for Gould who was altogether perfect) --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
I think Gould is THE perfect example of a pianist who has good and bad points, and Gould hits all-time highs and lows in my opinion. His Bach can be wonderful (though even here his liberty with speed and dynamics can get to me), but his Beethoven and Mozart can be maddening. It's always interesting to hear his interpretation, but I think he was too distinctive to perfectly interpret everything (which no one can do anyway and is completely a matter of opinion).
I do agree with your basic point though, every pianist has highs and lows. I did see Lang Lang playing Liebestraum #3, and it was quite good.
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Originally posted by acha114: Yundi Li has won some prestigious piano competitions. I'm not sure whether Lang Lang has done the same though.
Personally I enjoy listening to both players. Lang Lang did win a competition when he was 5. Don't know how prestigious it was though.
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Lang Lang will far-and-away be the better marketing success of the two, at least for the next 5 years minimum. If he can even continue to perform moderately well, his career will always be a marketing success (with a small probability of falling into "oblivion"). However, I think Yundi Li *may be the better pianist.
*I have not seen Yundi Li live and in concert, whereas I have seen Lang Lang perform. I believe Li's recordings are much better (that I've heard), but would reserve judgment until I've seen him live.
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Originally posted by acha114: Yundi Li has won some prestigious piano competitions. The Warsaw Chopin Competition, one of the most prestigious.
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Hard to say. I feel that if both pianists continue playing the way they have been and follow the paths they are currently on, both have great longevity potential. Barring any unforeseen major life changes, say LL shattering his fingers after falling off the bench during one of his "emotional takeovers" in an unprecedented display of poetic justice or Li being seduced by Hollywood producers and abandoning pianism for the "You Got Served" sequel, I feel both pianists will be in the spotlight for as long as they desire.
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Yundi Li definitely. Lang Lang is just earning money for his parents, while Yundi is playing for enjoyment.
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Yundi Li hands down. I love his recording of La Campanella! i hear it took 8 tries and plenty edits to get the final release version out with zero mistakes (it's a true story)
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Originally posted by Greg123456789: quote: I did see Lang Lang playing Liebestraum #3, and it was quite good. I am by no means a LL fan, but I have seen this on the arts channel, and I must admit, he played it very well. Man do I wish he would quit with the bugeyes though. If he ever disappears, that bugeye crap is what is gonna finally **** eveyone off.
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Originally posted by gordonf238: Yundi Li hands down. I love his recording of La Campanella! i hear it took 8 tries and plenty edits to get the final release version out with zero mistakes
(it's a true story) Somewhere in a library in Canada (has a web site) there are recordings of Glenn Gould studio sessions. Many takes, more than 8.
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Most, if not all commercial recordings these days are taken from several takes and spliced together like crazy. It is even quite possible to splice live recordings (as in Volodos' famous "live" Rachmaninoff 3rd concerto recording.)
This isn't new, it's been going on since about the late 50's I think.
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yeah, and that in many ways takes away the authenticity. i had just seen horowitz in moscow dvd, and horowitz: the last romantic, which documented the recordings he did in his new york city studio. he hit the wrong notes plenty, especially in the challenging parts, like in chopin's a-flat major polonaise, and he demanded that it is not edited. he said he's not perfect and neither should his performance/recording of a piece. i would assume studio recordings are done in the same fashion as with any other type of music. you either start from the beginning, or pick-up where you left off. the beauty of multitrack recording
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[/qb][/QUOTE]Somewhere in a library in Canada (has a web site) there are recordings of Glenn Gould studio sessions. Many takes, more than 8. [/QB][/QUOTE]
Yes, I've heard some of the Gould takes. Some of them being of the same piece are exceedingly different. If you weren't aware of who the pianist was, you would never have guessed that it was the same one. On top of that no matter how different the style, each take was spot on note perfect. Very neat to listen to.
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There is a difference between Gould, who tries out different kind of interpretations, and somebody who struggles to get his Paganini etude note perfect.
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