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#431780 - 08/08/05 08:49 PM Yundi Li or Lang Lang
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Ok, time to compare two piano prodigies. In your humble opinion, which pianist has a greater chance of making a really big name for himself later in his career? Consider technique and the pianists themselves (No Lang Lang bashing please!). I mean I met Lang Lang and he was such a nice guy, adn Yundi Li seems like a really humble and modest guy. Both have amazing talent and work ethic, so which one?
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#431781 - 08/08/05 08:56 PM Re: Yundi Li or Lang Lang
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Who do I think has the better chance for making a really big name for himself later in his career? Lang Lang, for he is already a "big name" in the world of piano, and that will most likely continue. I expect that he will be the greater commercial success.

Who do I think is likely to become the better pianist? In my opinion, Yundi Li.

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#431782 - 08/08/05 10:03 PM Re: Yundi Li or Lang Lang
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Yundi Li is great, Lang Lang is the worst pianist currently living.
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#431783 - 08/08/05 10:15 PM Re: Yundi Li or Lang Lang
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canadian, you crack me up.

I actually enjoy LL, but I do believe Yundi Li is a better pianist and will hopefully gain popularity.
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#431784 - 08/08/05 10:53 PM Re: Yundi Li or Lang Lang
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It seems that Lang Lang just has more luck with commercial success. Either that or a smarter business manager

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#431785 - 08/08/05 11:30 PM Re: Yundi Li or Lang Lang
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Yundi Li
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#431786 - 08/08/05 11:32 PM Re: Yundi Li or Lang Lang
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you know what...we should all stop caring about two asian pianists...they already have cd's out and they are all ready well known, is that good enough for SUCCESFFUL?...does it really matter? get your butts back on the piano and go practice.

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#431787 - 08/09/05 12:02 AM Re: Yundi Li or Lang Lang
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Yundi Li hands down. I love his recording of La Campanella!

@virtuoso418: Well he did have that Nike commercial during the Olympics where he played the Grieg Concerto ;\)

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#431788 - 08/09/05 01:39 AM Re: Yundi Li or Lang Lang
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Hi,
Rogethooven, time to step away from the caffiene and look into that anger management class.
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#431789 - 08/09/05 02:10 AM Re: Yundi Li or Lang Lang
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 Quote:
Originally posted by Rogethooven:
you know what...we should all stop caring about two asian pianists...they already have cd's out and they are all ready well known, is that good enough for SUCCESFFUL?...does it really matter? get your butts back on the piano and go practice. [/b]
I don't really care about either of them, but I prefer Yundi Li's playing.
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#431790 - 08/09/05 02:12 AM Re: Yundi Li or Lang Lang
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Probably Li, although it seems far too early to tell much about how either will develop.

My guess is that constancy wins the race. I would expect someone like Grimaud or Andsnes - two pianists who are past their 30s, have made several albums, and who maintain active and fairly high-profile concert appearances - will still be around in 10 or 20 years. If Li/Lang are still doing their thing in five years, then we'll see.
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#431791 - 08/09/05 02:26 AM Re: Yundi Li or Lang Lang
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Originally posted by john the hand:
virtuoso418: Well he did have that Nike commercial during the Olympics where he played the Grieg Concerto ;\) [/b]
Well, from what he played it could've been just a bunch of a and E chords ;\)

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#431792 - 08/09/05 04:07 AM Re: Yundi Li or Lang Lang
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Li, mostly definately.

HOWEVER, Yundi Li can not even compare to LL's hadoken skillz.

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#431793 - 08/09/05 12:27 PM Re: Yundi Li or Lang Lang
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I like the way that Lang Lang can play something differently and the critics complain, but it doesn't bother him. He played Rachmoninov's Pagannini Variations differently, and they came out great. That's the way piano playing should be.
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#431794 - 08/09/05 02:21 PM Re: Yundi Li or Lang Lang
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Unfortunately, he can also play very badly and the public doesn't complain. And that's not the way piano playing should be. \:D
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#431795 - 08/09/05 04:00 PM Re: Yundi Li or Lang Lang
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Originally posted by TheAsianPianist:

which pianist has a greater chance of making a really big name for himself later in his career? [/b]
Neither; The true great artist of this generation is the young Korean pianist, Dong-Hyek Lim, much less known than LL or Yundi, but indisputably one of the most passionate and poetic artists alive. He's going to be in the upcoming Warsaw Chopin Competition and better to god win.

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#431796 - 08/09/05 06:07 PM Re: Yundi Li or Lang Lang
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YES! im going to have to look into Dong-Hyek Lim, since he is Korean. I havent really heard any of the pianists from Korea, so Im hoping that Lim will get the recognition he deserves.
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#431797 - 08/09/05 06:11 PM Re: Yundi Li or Lang Lang
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#431798 - 08/09/05 08:59 PM Re: Yundi Li or Lang Lang
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MITSUKO UCHIDA >YOYO>LL>DA SHRIMP>MEI TI SUNG
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#431799 - 08/09/05 09:03 PM Re: Yundi Li or Lang Lang
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Pollini > Uchida > ...

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#431800 - 08/09/05 10:50 PM Re: Yundi Li or Lang Lang
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Pollini in the 1960s and 70s was better than Uchida, but he has been getting worse ever since.

My opinion of course. ;\)
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#431801 - 08/10/05 04:35 PM Re: Yundi Li or Lang Lang
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Originally posted by Kreisler:
Unfortunately, he can also play very badly and the public doesn't complain. And that's not the way piano playing should be. \:D [/b]
Inwhat way does he play bad? All artists have their good and bad points(except for Gould who was altogether perfect), but I don't see anything that would make him exceptionally bad.
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#431802 - 08/10/05 04:51 PM Re: Yundi Li or Lang Lang
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Search for the other Lang Lang threads, and you'll get your full share of the argument. Just please don't bring it up again; we've already all had our full share...hehe

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#431803 - 08/10/05 08:39 PM Re: Yundi Li or Lang Lang
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Originally posted by Contrapunctus:
All artists have their good and bad points(except for Gould who was altogether perfect)[/QB]
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#431804 - 08/10/05 09:03 PM Re: Yundi Li or Lang Lang
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Yundi Li has won some prestigious piano competitions. I'm not sure whether Lang Lang has done the same though.

Personally I enjoy listening to both players.

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#431805 - 08/10/05 09:35 PM Re: Yundi Li or Lang Lang
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 Quote:
Originally posted by snap_apple:
 Quote:
Originally posted by Contrapunctus:
All artists have their good and bad points(except for Gould who was altogether perfect)
WHOA... [/b]
Exactly - you're way off on that one.
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#431806 - 08/10/05 11:15 PM Re: Yundi Li or Lang Lang
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This asian thread stuff reminds me. Did anyone see the little six year old asian kid play the mozart variation on Leno last night? I thought his performance was definately lacking. He was only six. Then again he was introduced as a prodigy. I think I could have done better. If I were in the audience I would have stepped forward and shown him up.
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#431807 - 08/11/05 02:43 AM Re: Yundi Li or Lang Lang
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Originally posted by Contrapunctus:
All artists have their good and bad points(except for Gould who was altogether perfect)
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I think Gould is THE perfect example of a pianist who has good and bad points, and Gould hits all-time highs and lows in my opinion. His Bach can be wonderful (though even here his liberty with speed and dynamics can get to me), but his Beethoven and Mozart can be maddening. It's always interesting to hear his interpretation, but I think he was too distinctive to perfectly interpret everything (which no one can do anyway and is completely a matter of opinion).

I do agree with your basic point though, every pianist has highs and lows. I did see Lang Lang playing Liebestraum #3, and it was quite good.

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#431808 - 08/11/05 03:15 AM Re: Yundi Li or Lang Lang
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Originally posted by acha114:
Yundi Li has won some prestigious piano competitions. I'm not sure whether Lang Lang has done the same though.

Personally I enjoy listening to both players. [/b]
Lang Lang did win a competition when he was 5. Don't know how prestigious it was though.
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#431809 - 08/12/05 12:11 AM Re: Yundi Li or Lang Lang
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Lang Lang will far-and-away be the better marketing success of the two, at least for the next 5 years minimum. If he can even continue to perform moderately well, his career will always be a marketing success (with a small probability of falling into "oblivion"). However, I think Yundi Li *may be the better pianist.

*I have not seen Yundi Li live and in concert, whereas I have seen Lang Lang perform. I believe Li's recordings are much better (that I've heard), but would reserve judgment until I've seen him live.
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