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#431916 - 08/25/08 05:39 PM Flight of the Bumblebee Original Version for Piano?
Mr. J Offline
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Registered: 08/14/08
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i found several versions of flight of the bumblebee piano sheets on the net. How would i know which one is the original version? There are no other infos like 'arranged by ...' on them. It just says Nikolai Rimsky-Korsakov. I understand that this piece might(?) not be originally for piano so i guess it is problematic to use the term 'original version.' What then is the most acceptable/popular piano version of it or used at piano competitions?
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#431917 - 08/25/08 06:08 PM Re: Flight of the Bumblebee Original Version for Piano?
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Rimsky-Korsakov originally wrote this piece for orchestra for the Tale of Tsar Saltan, that's correct. The two most famous transcriptions are by Rachmaninoff and another by Cziffra. The Rachmaninoff version can be found at www.imslp.org .

Cheers!
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#431918 - 08/25/08 11:19 PM Re: Flight of the Bumblebee Original Version for Piano?
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Another interesting version-I don't know if it's been published:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wDfybvB_nlg

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#431919 - 08/26/08 05:10 AM Re: Flight of the Bumblebee Original Version for Piano?
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the files on imsl.org are blocked because of copyright... how about this one > flight of the bumblebee piano sheet < which version is this? thanks for the help! \:\)
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#431920 - 08/26/08 06:33 AM Re: Flight of the Bumblebee Original Version for Piano?
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That's the Rachmaninoff transcription, JJ Ong.
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#431921 - 08/26/08 08:47 AM Re: Flight of the Bumblebee Original Version for Piano?
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JJ, I liked your original avatar better than the current one. ;\)

Steven
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Chopin: Allegro de Concert Op. 46
Schumann: Toccata Op. 7
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#431922 - 08/27/08 12:01 AM Re: Flight of the Bumblebee Original Version for Piano?
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thanks for the help! \:D oh, just wondering, did Rachmaninoff put the finger marks on that or was it the publisher?

ps

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Originally posted by sotto voce:
JJ, I liked your original avatar better than the current one. ;\)

Steven [/b]
:p i put the original pic back for you
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#431923 - 08/27/08 02:03 AM Re: Flight of the Bumblebee Original Version for Piano?
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Originally posted by JJ Ong:
:p i put the original pic back for you [/b]
Wow, thanks!

... and a belated welcome to Piano World.



Steven
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Chopin: Allegro de Concert Op. 46
Schumann: Toccata Op. 7
Fauré: Ballade Op. 19

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#431924 - 08/27/08 04:31 AM Re: Flight of the Bumblebee Original Version for Piano?
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Thanks for the welcome!

OT: About myself

I started playing the piano last December under Chuan Chang's book (Fundamentals of Piano Practice). I didn't expect much but my progress proved to be very fast under his method. No bragging but I was surprised to see the difference on technique/level that I achieved in 8 months compared to the other piano students on my school (that even started a couple of years before me). Though I admit that my current piano playing/reading skills stills needs very very heavy work. To cut the story short, I wouldn't be in this board if I hadn't encountered Chang. I probably might have pursued some other interests like making sculptures out of toothpicks or scatology.
(just kidding on that last note)

I'm going to enter a local piano competition (this coming December) w/ this piece (flight of the bumblebee) on my list. It's going to be a bloody (yet fun) time for the next 3 months but I'm very determined and confident to get that gold!!
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#431925 - 08/27/08 06:12 AM Re: Flight of the Bumblebee Original Version for Piano?
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You can find original version on maksim mrvica page:)

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#431926 - 09/25/08 01:08 AM Re: Flight of the Bumblebee Original Version for Piano?
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Registered: 09/24/08
Posts: 12
Loc: singapore
I'm having a problem w/ my right finger, i don't know it much , figuring right position of my right finger. Can someone help me?.

I already have sheetmusic of it,.

Which is better, RACH or Korsakov's version?

Thanks.
FLfever
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#431927 - 09/25/08 01:12 AM Re: Flight of the Bumblebee Original Version for Piano?
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 Quote:
Originally posted by franzliszt4ver:
I'm having a problem w/ my right finger, i don't know it much , figuring right position of my right finger. Can someone help me?.

I already have sheetmusic of it,.

Which is better, RACH or Korsakov's version?

Thanks.
FLfever [/b]
Cziffra , of course.
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#431928 - 09/25/08 10:19 AM Re: Flight of the Bumblebee Original Version for Piano?
franzliszt4ver Offline
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Registered: 09/24/08
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Cziffra, yeah. it's amazing score but how do i buy his transcription?

Btw, I'm not an amateur pianist.

Big thanks for your response.

FLfever
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#431929 - 09/25/08 01:25 PM Re: Flight of the Bumblebee Original Version for Piano?
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 Quote:
Originally posted by franzliszt4ver:
Cziffra, yeah. it's amazing score but how do i buy his transcription?

Btw, I'm not an amateur pianist.

Big thanks for your response.

FLfever [/b]
Yeah, you definitely sound like a professional. Is this a dig at my status as an amateur?

I'd like to think I'm an amateur in a similar sense to the way that Christopher Shih or those in the Amateur Van Cliburn Competition are amateurs, not in the sense of a dabbler or a tinkerer. Amateurity does not necessitate mediocrity.
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#431930 - 09/25/08 02:09 PM Re: Flight of the Bumblebee Original Version for Piano?
sotto voce Offline
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Originally posted by Fleeting Visions:
Amateur does not necessitate mediocrity. [/b]
No, it does not—and it's a shame that it's taken on that meaning in addition to the original sense that must now be defended.

FWIW, dilettante was originally not pejorative, either; like amateur, it meant a lover of the arts or science.

Steven
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—Albert Schweitzer

Chopin: Allegro de Concert Op. 46
Schumann: Toccata Op. 7
Fauré: Ballade Op. 19

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#431931 - 09/25/08 02:20 PM Re: Flight of the Bumblebee Original Version for Piano?
Akira Offline
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Registered: 07/27/07
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Loc: Los Angeles, CA
How the heck are you ready for a piece like this with less than a year under your belt?

What's your secret (I'm jealous!)?

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#431932 - 09/29/08 11:22 AM Re: Flight of the Bumblebee Original Version for Piano?
franzliszt4ver Offline
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Registered: 09/24/08
Posts: 12
Loc: singapore
 Quote:
Originally posted by Fleeting Visions:
 Quote:
Originally posted by franzliszt4ver:
Cziffra, yeah. it's amazing score but how do i buy his transcription?

Btw, I'm not an amateur pianist.

Big thanks for your response.

FLfever [/b]

Yeah, you definitely sound like a professional. Is this a dig at my status as an amateur?
[/b]
dig? Oh yeah, I dug because I've noticed in your status, Nvm,,.

Honestly. I'm not good enough, I think I'm an Intermediate. Sorry, I did'nt mean it.

Back to topic, Could anyone help me how to play Rachmaninoff with correct fingering?

Thanks, It would be greatly appreciated.

FLfever
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#431933 - 09/29/08 12:49 PM Re: Flight of the Bumblebee Original Version for Piano?
sotto voce Offline
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Loc: Briarcliff Manor, NY, USA
 Quote:
Originally posted by franzliszt4ver:
Back to topic, Could anyone help me how to play Rachmaninoff with correct fingering?[/b]
I don't think anyone would claim that they can offer fingerings that are "correct" for anyone but themselves. Even the suggested fingerings of professional editors are suggestions.

If you need ideas about fingerings for specific passages, it would be best to mention the bar number(s), the fingerings you've tried and also why you found them not to be satisfactory.

Please don't think I'm being rude or unhelpful. Perhaps there's a language issue that can lead to misunderstanding; I just wanted to point out that "correct" is probably not the correct word to use. \:\)

Steven
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