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Beethoven\'s Hands Postmortem sketch

If you compare the above link with the original post, the shape of the fingernails should give evidence that, in the OP, left is Chopin, and the right is Beethoven - or so it seems, to me.

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In one of the parks in Warsau,Poland, there is a large bronze hand statue that depicts the hand of Chopin. I have a photo of it, I will try to post it, if I can remember how to post photos.
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The main thing I notice is how the thumb joint juts way out on all the Chopin casts, and that joint is pretty close to the line of uppermost knuckles. This looks to me more like the hand on the left by far.


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OK, the points you all bring up are more convincing. It makes me curious though where the "Beethoven has stubby fingers" myth came from.

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OK, the points you all bring up are more convincing. It makes me curious though where the "Beethoven has stubby fingers" myth came from.
Anecdotal accounts so like to emphasise the "peasant," "rough," "natural, "independent", "uncouth" "noble savage" aspects of Beethoven, quietly forgetting he added the aristocratic "von" to his name himself. The stubby "peasant" fingers myth fits right in.


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OK, the points you all bring up are more convincing. It makes me curious though where the "Beethoven has stubby fingers" myth came from.
Maybe someone saw a depiction in which they looked short and stubby. It occurred to me that one would have a very different impression of Liszt's hands based on the "old age" photo that Frycek posted than from this picture just a few decades before:

http://www.pianoworld.com/ubb/ubb/ultimatebb.php?/topic/2/19735.html

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OK, the points you all bring up are more convincing. It makes me curious though where the "Beethoven has stubby fingers" myth came from.
I think it might have come from 'Beethoven was short and stubby'.

But then, are we sure of that?

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[b] OK, the points you all bring up are more convincing. It makes me curious though where the "Beethoven has stubby fingers" myth came from.
I think it might have come from 'Beethoven was short and stubby'.

But then, are we sure of that?

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I've gotten the impression that Beethoven was short but burly.


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