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#439077 - 08/02/01 05:49 PM "Song" vs. "Piece"
Bernard Offline
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Registered: 07/06/01
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As a dear friend of mine used to say "It's the little things"! I have been noticing the word "Song" being used within these forums to refer to many classical pieces which are not songs . In classical music there is the song (as in German Lieder) and there are sonatas, concertos, ballades, etudes, ... and other pieces.

The band teacher I had in High School (we're talking many years ago!) made a big point of starting each year off with a lecture about the word "Song". If I may recap this little lesson: A song is a song, anything else is not a song and is properly referred to as a piece of music. A piece of music can be anything from a song to a symphony. \:\)
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#439078 - 08/02/01 06:13 PM Re: "Song" vs. "Piece"
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Registered: 05/26/01
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Well said; it's a peeve that I have also and I hope your post is heeded.

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#439079 - 08/02/01 06:55 PM Re: "Song" vs. "Piece"
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Years ago, a prominent piano teacher who had a doctorate degree wrote once when adjudicating me, "This number needs more feeling."

NUMBER? It was in reference to Chopin's Waltz in A Minor, Op. 34, No. 2.

But, that piece is such a swell ditty. \:D

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#439080 - 08/02/01 07:54 PM Re: "Song" vs. "Piece"
Hank Drake Offline
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To be more succinct:

A SONG is SUNG;
A PIECE is PLAYED.
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#439081 - 08/03/01 01:12 PM Re: "Song" vs. "Piece"
Samejame Offline
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A song can be played, but a piece can't be sung (but you can hum it!) ;\)
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#439082 - 08/03/01 02:41 PM Re: "Song" vs. "Piece"
Daniel Offline
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Registered: 05/28/01
Posts: 57
Loc: Denmark
hmm.. normally I just hum songs also.. if I try anything else people will tell me to shut up or go somewhere else \:\(

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sure, im a great singer.. it's just the words that won't come out right! :p

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#439083 - 08/03/01 04:41 PM Re: "Song" vs. "Piece"
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Thank you, Bernard, for your post that started this thread. I hope others will learn from it.

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#439084 - 08/03/01 05:00 PM Re: "Song" vs. "Piece"
Hank Drake Offline
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I can never remember the lyrics anyway.
On the other hand, Glenn Gould was one who would often hum a piece.
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#439085 - 08/03/01 05:15 PM Re: "Song" vs. "Piece"
ryan Offline
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Registered: 06/04/01
Posts: 1995
Loc: Colorado
So, then, are the pieces that Glenn Gould played actually "songs"?

Ryan

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#439086 - 08/04/01 12:03 AM Re: "Song" vs. "Piece"
Mat D. Offline
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Registered: 05/29/01
Posts: 512
Loc: Sterling Heights, Michigan
My Jazz friends refer to pieces of music as "tunes".

I can name that "tune" in...

[ August 04, 2001: Message edited by: Mat D. ]

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#439087 - 08/06/01 02:13 PM Re: "Song" vs. "Piece"
Bernard Offline
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I found this wonderful little quip from our dear friend Voltaire this weekend:

"Anything too ugly to be spoken is usually sung." --Volaire
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