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#447317 - 07/11/01 11:37 AM When will the pain end?
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Recently obtained from the website of the American Scholarship Association's World Piano Competition, hosted in Cincinnati:

WPC 2001 - Competition Results
Artists Finals: July 10th 2001
First Place:
Cuong Van, Vietnam
Beethoven - Piano Concerto No. 5, Op.73
Second Place:
Joannis Potamousis, Greece
List - Piano Concerto No. 1 in E-flat Major
Third Place:
Serhii Morozov, Ukraine
List - Piano Concerto No. 1 in E-flat Major


List???? LIST??????????????
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#447318 - 07/11/01 12:34 PM Re: When will the pain end?
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OK, I admit it. I'm dense. But I don't get the title "When will the pain end?" in context to the post.

El Presidente

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#447319 - 07/11/01 01:03 PM Re: When will the pain end?
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Because it's an obvious mistake that screams out, hurting my poor, Liszt-adoring heart.

Seeing as we are on opposite ends of the ideological spectrum, I see no other option than to refer you to my soon to be appointed propaganda minister for further communication. (hint-hint, Diarmuid)

Comrade Brendanovich
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#447320 - 07/11/01 04:07 PM Re: When will the pain end?
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Didn't the French used to misspell it as L-I-Z-S-T?

Mon dieu! :rolleyes:

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#447321 - 07/11/01 06:10 PM Re: When will the pain end?
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That and every horrid rendition of it: List Lizt, Listz, etc. ad infinitum
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#447322 - 07/11/01 07:39 PM Re: When will the pain end?
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I accept the role with great honour comrade. Together we shall glorify the Masters name and fight his vile detractors. Those wretched, bourgeois Chopinists will be no match for our superior wit and reasoning.

Comrade Diarmuidski.

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#447323 - 07/11/01 09:49 PM Re: When will the pain end?
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I bet Liszt could beat Chopin in a fight anyday!

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#447324 - 07/11/01 10:07 PM Re: When will the pain end?
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YES[/b]

[ July 11, 2001: Message edited by: Brendan ]
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#447325 - 07/11/01 10:22 PM Re: When will the pain end?
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Of course List could beat Chopin in a fight anyday. Chopin is sensitive, melodic and beautiful. List :p is coarse, unrefined and bombastic with no sense of substance. Sort of like Mike Tyson (List) vs. Mikhail
Barishnakov.

Musique de List est tres mal, mal, mal!

Pardon mon francais.

President pour la vie.

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#447326 - 07/11/01 11:44 PM Re: When will the pain end?
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Somewhat true, yes, but that doesn't negate the fact that he could easily suplex Chopin off of the top rope.

M. President, ich weiss, wo du wohnst.

Entschuldigung Sie meinen deutsch,

Jorg Brendan
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#447327 - 07/12/01 03:44 AM Re: When will the pain end?
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Could be fun to watch a 'piano-duel' though \:\)

- Jeg synes Liszt er sjov!

Sorry about my bad Danish ;\)
Must ad a bit of bad french on top of that!

- Je pense que Liszt et tres drole

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#447328 - 07/12/01 07:58 AM Re: When will the pain end?
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of course chopin would never beat listz in a fight... chopin would just gracefully stand back and let Ltsiz take all the limelight which he craves for so desperately...

p.s. the lzist mispellings were done on purpose...=]

je deteste Lsitz! =]

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#447329 - 07/12/01 08:17 AM Re: When will the pain end?
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PAH! Liszt would triumph over Chopin in any field! Chopin was nothing but an obsequious sycophant, pandering to the tastes of Parisian society with twee waltzes and trifling, frivolous etudes.

Liszt was a TITAN! Pure of heart, noble in reason, unconstrained by convention, he soared above the masses blazing a trail through the heavens...Oh Franz! FRANZ! HOW THEY MALAIGN YOU!...quickly comrade the valium.

[ July 12, 2001: Message edited by: Diarmuid ]

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#447330 - 07/12/01 09:28 AM Re: When will the pain end?
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You're right, this is a fun war!

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#447331 - 07/12/01 09:34 AM Re: When will the pain end?
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What an informative group you all are!

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#447332 - 07/12/01 09:52 AM Re: When will the pain end?
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i agree with that.

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#447333 - 07/12/01 10:16 AM Re: When will the pain end?
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Accuse me, if you will, of having no sense of humor, (this is supposed to be funny?) but I fail to see what purpose is served by degrading this forum with this kind of sophomoric exchange!
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#447334 - 07/12/01 10:30 AM Re: When will the pain end?
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 Quote:
Originally posted by BruceD:
Accuse me, if you will, of having no sense of humor, (this is supposed to be funny?) but I fail to see what purpose is served by degrading this forum with this kind of sophomoric exchange![/b]


I hereby accuse you of having no sense of humor.

Although my command of the English language is but a mere fraction of the unequivocal sapience and lucidity of thought that my comrade-in-arms, Dairmuid, posses, I am morally obliged to nonetheless hither to my predilection for Liszt's music and articulate my feelings on said composer to my antagonists in the most astute, forthright manner possible.

God forbid we make light of things.
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#447335 - 07/12/01 12:40 PM Re: When will the pain end?
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Bruce, I offer my humblest and most earnest apologies. If I should ever attempt to cross the boundary into levity again please tell me.

[ July 12, 2001: Message edited by: Diarmuid ]

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#447336 - 07/12/01 12:47 PM Re: When will the pain end?
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Well, I thought it was funny.

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#447337 - 07/12/01 01:14 PM Re: When will the pain end?
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Diarmuid, I'm ignant..........what does that there word "levity" mean?????
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#447338 - 07/12/01 02:17 PM Re: When will the pain end?
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That there word means "Lightness of manner or speech, especially when inappropriate; frivolity".

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#447339 - 07/12/01 03:40 PM Re: When will the pain end?
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I am throwing my dictionary out and just coming to this place to learn new words! I have already learned a large liszt of words.. (pun intented). We cannot overlook the fact that Chopin was an invert, he only played in small salons and had a fear of the public. He had no where as many notable pupils as Liszt, who went out of his way to help his art. That is where the comparison ends, because it is futile to try and compare them, both are composers of the first rank, the better one is that which you think suits you best. ;\)

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#447340 - 07/12/01 04:27 PM Re: When will the pain end?
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Hear, hear. They were human beings and I honestly love them both.

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#447341 - 07/12/01 05:29 PM Re: When will the pain end?
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with apologies to Bruce,

Let's stop getting all mushy. It seems incredulous to me that one who loves Chopin could also love the "king of notes".

Andrew, I need a VP for life very badly. We need to build a lizst of followers.

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#447342 - 07/12/01 05:48 PM Re: When will the pain end?
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You guys crack me up!

Joy

\:D :p ;\) :rolleyes:

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#447343 - 07/12/01 06:02 PM Re: When will the pain end?
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 Quote:
Originally posted by Alex:
[QB]Let's stop getting all mushy. It seems incredulous to me that one who loves Chopin could also love the "king of notes".
QB]


You's right! There's no notes in them thar Ay-toods!!!
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#447344 - 07/12/01 06:30 PM Re: When will the pain end?
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Brendan,

As a liszt-less lisztentious illiszterati of the Liszt liszturgy, does your laudable largesse allow liszting for me a liszt of Liszt’s labors passing the listzmus test of being playable with my leszt than lithe fingers?

:p
Dan

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#447345 - 07/12/01 06:48 PM Re: When will the pain end?
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Surely you show sagacity and sapience in your submitted query, yet skepticism seeps into my soul. Should I supply you such a lis(z)t of the sounds that shower my heart with sunlight, or is this a sickening spy-mission by a Chopinist to sour my sentiments?

Sooner than see my sorrows become stone-thick sediments in my heart and succumb to your seemingly simple question would I rather sink into a pit of snakes. So...instead let me share with you a new favorite composer of mine:

Saint-Saens
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#447346 - 07/12/01 07:41 PM Re: When will the pain end?
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Uncle! UNCLE! No more, please!

I should have known better, although I was especially pleased with the term "Liszt Liszturgy"...

;\)

P.S. I *would* like a list of simple pieces for playing by an early intermediate level of pianist (me), if such a thing exists. Seems like I saw you or someone post a few suggestions in an earlier post somewhere.

D.

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