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What pieces that you legitimately think you are capable of do you aim to play at some (any) time in the future?
i.e. what are your big repetoire goals?
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I keep the following scores near my piano in hopes that someday I'll be able to play them all:
All of the Op 32 Rachmaninoff Preludes (3 down, 7 to go) Third Chopin sonata (I've actually played this, just not as well as I'd like...) The Goldberg and Rzewski variations All of Iberia (got 4 down, just 8 more left...kinda scared of "Malaga")
I also really want to do this insane all-Brahms recital. I've performed all of these separately, but I really want to do them on one program like this:
Sonata, Op. 1 Handel Variations, Op. 24 Fantasien, Op. 116
Sort of an early-middle-late overview of Brahms's works.
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Originally posted by Kreisler: I also really want to do this insane all-Brahms recital. I've performed all of these separately, but I really want to do them on one program like this:
Sonata, Op. 1 Handel Variations, Op. 24 Fantasien, Op. 116
Sort of an early-middle-late overview of Brahms's works. Wow, I really like that program! I've never seen anything like it before. What about substituting the Chorale Preludes, Op. 122 for Op. 116? The 20th century spanish composer Paul Juon transcribed them for piano. - not like it matters. I try to sell Brahms' Op. 122 like Crashtest tries to sell the Second Viennese School.
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My aspirations are cliche--Rach 3 and Gaspard. I'm also looking into Stravinski's Petrushka.
Hey OG, did you get to play for that Julliard professor? How did it go?
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I am doing the Bach g minor English suite now, and I would love to do the other ones as well, hopefully as a full set one day!
I want to get some of Messiaen's Vingt regards under my fingers, so hopefully I could play a couple in my senior recital in 3 1/2 years. And of course, whenever I come upon the oppurtunity to learn the 2nd Boulez sonata, and I get a few mental checkups beforehand, I would go right ahead!
As for other sonatas, I want to learn the Waldstein soon, that has always been one of my favorites.
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Originally posted by mkesfahani: Hey OG, did you get to play for that Julliard professor? How did it go?
Mike It went well, thanks. He said that my playing was 'remarkable,' and that he'd like to hear me again; but I need to learn some bigger pieces - to play for him, and a possible Juilliard audition next year.
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This would be in front of a live (conscious) audience?
Better to light one small candle than to curse the %&#$@#! darkness. :t:
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Originally posted by JBryan: This would be in front of a live (conscious) audience? Does it still count if the audience is live and conscious, but in a zombie-like state?
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Originally posted by Kreisler: I also really want to do this insane all-Brahms recital. I've performed all of these separately, but I really want to do them on one program like this:
Sonata, Op. 1 Handel Variations, Op. 24 Fantasien, Op. 116
Sort of an early-middle-late overview of Brahms's works. Wow! If you do that, I'll make the trip to hear it. Those are some of my all-time favorite works. I love everything in Op. 116 (I think, I may be blocking something I don't like.) I keep returning to the Capriccio in gm (I think #3?) particularly the middle section. The chords in that just give me goose bumps! Nina
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Plans: - Vingt Regards. 12 down, 8 to go. I really need to buckle down and finish this in the next few years...
- Brahms op.5
- Mussorgksy, Pictures
- Beethoven 4th
- Ravel LH Concerto
Stretches: - Beethoven, Hammerklavier
- Barber Concerto. It was much harder than I thought it would be.
- Goldberg Variations
Dreams: - Alkan Sonata
- Petrushka
- Ligeti Etudes. Doesn't seem like they're for my hands.
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Originally posted by Brendan: Dreams:
- Alkan Sonata
- Petrushka
- Ligeti Etudes. Doesn't seem like they're for my hands.
Is Petrushka really that difficult that you only dream about learning it? Maybe I should rearrange my own priorities. One of my old teachers said that all one needs to know is how to "bouce" and you're fine. I guess that's really hard to learn. Mike
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Getting the notes of Petrushka isn't the problem. Brendan could get the notes down in a month. Getting it to sound colorfully orchestrated - now that's the trick.
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I heard John Ogdon play the twelve studies about thirty-five years ago. He was a big man, and at the end he was a mass of perspiration. He teetered to the front of the stage with his shirt hanging out, one trouser leg stuck halfway up his leg and just about fell over when he bowed.
Gymnastically it was an awe inspiring spectacle but I was left with the impression of having witnessed a gladiatorial contest rather than a recital of music.
In those pieces requiring broad strength of romantic sound - Chasse Neige, Ricordanza, Vision, Harmonies du Soir, he was outstanding.
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Realms of the possible:
- Prokofiev: Piano Concerto no. 3 - Prokofiev: Sonata no. 7 - Ligeti: Etudes (some of them) - Ravel: Miroirs
Maybe:
- Ravel: Concerto in G - Prokofiev: Piano Concerto no. 2 - Some more Ligeti Etudes
Some day, and if it's the last thing I do before I die:
- Sorabji: Opus clavicembalisticum
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Originally posted by Ted: I heard John Ogdon play the twelve studies about thirty-five years ago. He was a big man, and at the end he was a mass of perspiration. He teetered to the front of the stage with his shirt hanging out, one trouser leg stuck halfway up his leg and just about fell over when he bowed.
Gymnastically it was an awe inspiring spectacle but I was left with the impression of having witnessed a gladiatorial contest rather than a recital of music.
In those pieces requiring broad strength of romantic sound - Chasse Neige, Ricordanza, Vision, Harmonies du Soir, he was outstanding. Hey Ted that's remarkable. I too saw Ogdon at the QElizHall in London about 30 years ago and he was exactly the same. He played Rach's 2nd sonata, Chopin's 3rd , a load of Liszt Trancendentals and a contemporary piece I cannot remember that you'd obviously needed three hands and a foot to tackle !! An amazing feat to actually get to the end and as when you saw him he staggered up from the piano at the end looking like he'd had a fight down the local pub and ended up in a bush the worse for wear Maximus........bring on the Christians! heh heh The man was a phenomenon, a truly original performer
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Current major projects : Waldstein (1 movement down.. 2 to go) Winterwind Etude (thats gonna be a while)
Hopefuls in future: Mozart "Coronation" Piano Concerto One of Scriabin's Sonatas Liszt's La Campanella Chopin's first ballade op.23 Grande Polonaise Brillante - Chopin Far Reachs: Beethoven's 5th piano concerto Rachmaninoff's 2nd and 3rd concertos Brahms 2nd Piano Concerto (i told you this was far reachs) Ravel's LH Concerto Sorjabi - Opus Clavicembalisticum
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Originally posted by mkesfahani: Is Petrushka really that difficult that you only dream about learning it? Maybe I should rearrange my own priorities. One of my old teachers said that all one needs to know is how to "bouce" and you're fine. I guess that's really hard to learn.
After hearing Pollini, I don't think that there is anything that I could add to the piece. It's the same thing with the Alkan. I was going to do it on my recital this year, but Hamelin's recording raised the bar so infinitely high that I felt like my performance wouldn't compare. Maybe when they die I'll look into it seriously. It is a bit of a beotch in the technical area. I worked on it for a few weeks and was having some tension problems in the first movement. Couldn't seem to get the repeated 4-note chords past 104. On the other hand, if you can get through those first three or four pages, it's doable.
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Sorry to change the subject abit... I notice one of you put waldstein in your current projects and la campanella in your want to learns, but then placed Beethoven's emperor inyour far reach column along with rach 2 and 3....is it really that difficult? It's just concerning me because I want to learn the first movement, and I've looked through the score it didn't look too bad, musical problems aside...is it?
Dave
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