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#449777 - 07/30/07 04:57 PM Re: Wunderkind
Antonius Hamus Offline
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Registered: 05/24/05
Posts: 2230
Wunder looks like a marionette being operated by the piano, and the piano doesn't seem to like him. The marionette doesn't seem to like it either. It's like witnessing a beating. I don't think he could take it significantly faster than that: he can only with effort take it as it is.

Just for fun? I don't know... Most pianists just seem to respect Chopin's allegro marking. And some think it's an awkward piece that requires otherwise useless tricks to pull off.

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#449778 - 07/30/07 04:58 PM Re: Wunderkind
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Registered: 07/09/05
Posts: 1035
Loc: Texas
Originally posted by Mr_Kitty:

LOL and who's to say Wunder couldn't take it faster as well? [/b]
Who knows? He might be able to. I was just saying it wasn't really fair to Kissin and Tiempo and anybody else to count them out. Only they (and maybe their teachers) know what theyre fully capable of, y'know?
Houston, Texas

#449779 - 07/30/07 05:02 PM Re: Wunderkind
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Registered: 05/29/07
Posts: 667
Loc: Toronto
I'm sure kissin and tiempo couldn't care less about wunder or how fast he can play. they are already well established. kissin gets 50k per concert, or so i've heard.
anyway, the second they start surfing the 'net, they'll come across wunder, and hopefully they'll produce something better! (or at least faster;))

#449780 - 07/31/07 09:07 AM Re: Wunderkind
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Registered: 02/11/06
Posts: 475
Loc: North Carolina, USA
Here is Wunder playing this etude in a castle:

Schubert: Impromptus Op. 90, Nos. 2 and 4
Chopin: Etudes Op. 25, Nos. 10-12
Scriabin: Sonata No. 2

#449781 - 07/31/07 03:43 PM Re: Wunderkind
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Registered: 08/17/06
Posts: 340
Loc: Bulgaria
I don't see the point arguing who can take any piece at a faster tempo. I would actually presume that one's tempo in a particular recording is the one that he actually wants to play it in. I don't see much sense in supposing how fast can a pianist take a certain piece, as there's physical proof of how he feels he should play it.

If you want a little comparison: listen to Wunder's recording of Liszt - Feux follets, and then compare the tempo to Arrau's...

#449782 - 07/31/07 06:05 PM Re: Wunderkind
Mr_Kitty Offline
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Registered: 05/29/07
Posts: 667
Loc: Toronto
I don't have the Arrau recording... Wunder takes it significantly faster than Cziffra, if less restrained/controlled than the great master.
Comparisons are pointless, however.
I just started this thread to marvel at/discuss this young pianist's incredible technique.
lol I'm emailing Wunder right now and asking him how he got so beefy.

#449783 - 07/31/07 11:54 PM Re: Wunderkind
Loki Offline
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Registered: 07/09/05
Posts: 1035
Loc: Texas
haha make sure you inform us if he replies. im curious as to what he'll say.
Houston, Texas

#449784 - 08/01/07 02:13 PM Re: Wunderkind
Liszt_BG Offline
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Registered: 08/17/06
Posts: 340
Loc: Bulgaria
Arrau's better than both.

#449785 - 08/02/07 01:44 AM Re: Wunderkind
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Registered: 09/08/05
Posts: 1276
Loc: Republic of Macedonia
Originally posted by argerichfan:

For the sheer thrill of speed, try this . The sound and picture quality are bloody awful, but you'll get the idea.

It is actually a supreme performance. When not gawking at the right hand passagework, notice that powerful left hand. [/b]
Now, that's fast!

But[/b], I like Pogorelich's version more, because he really plays very smooth and his sound is amazing. Perfect.

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