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#451676 - 03/17/06 09:02 PM Re: Piano World Rachmaninoff 3 Project
prokofiev Full Member Registered: 05/20/05 Posts: 388 Loc: California	Those two pages for the horizontal density. Now for the vertical density: Movement 3 File 7 Page 2: 252 (on one line!!) _________________________ prok
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#451677 - 03/17/06 09:16 PM Re: Piano World Rachmaninoff 3 Project
prokofiev Full Member Registered: 05/20/05 Posts: 388 Loc: California	Quote: Originally posted by Kreisler: Hmm...let's do the one in big print! [/b] Doesn't the ossia cadenza have more notes? Be prepared for pwnage... using ossia cadenza: Movement 1 file 4 page 2: 922 Movement 1 file 4 page 3: 1588 (+/- 10 for both... I kind of lost concentration) _________________________ prok
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#451678 - 03/18/06 12:14 PM Re: Piano World Rachmaninoff 3 Project
lol_nl 500 Post Club Member Registered: 02/21/06 Posts: 918 Loc: Ede, Netherlands	movement 1 file 3: page 1: 191 (don't count the first note of page 2!) _________________________ Yiteng "Music is enough for a lifetime, but a lifetime is never enough for music." -Sergei Rachmaninoff.
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#451679 - 03/18/06 12:21 PM Re: Piano World Rachmaninoff 3 Project
lol_nl 500 Post Club Member Registered: 02/21/06 Posts: 918 Loc: Ede, Netherlands	Movement 1 file 3: page 2: 225 (including first note of page 3 (tied note))! _________________________ Yiteng "Music is enough for a lifetime, but a lifetime is never enough for music." -Sergei Rachmaninoff.
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#451680 - 03/18/06 12:31 PM Re: Piano World Rachmaninoff 3 Project
mary808 Junior Member Registered: 01/20/06 Posts: 16 Loc: Dallas TX	n00b question - how do I get to it from sheetmusicarchives.net? I want to help! _________________________ Mary
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#451681 - 03/18/06 12:39 PM Re: Piano World Rachmaninoff 3 Project
lol_nl 500 Post Club Member Registered: 02/21/06 Posts: 918 Loc: Ede, Netherlands	Movement 1 file 3: page 3: 467 _________________________ Yiteng "Music is enough for a lifetime, but a lifetime is never enough for music." -Sergei Rachmaninoff.
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#451682 - 03/18/06 12:43 PM Re: Piano World Rachmaninoff 3 Project
Kreisler Yikes! 10000 Post Club Member Registered: 11/27/02 Posts: 13077 Loc: Iowa City, IA	Quote: Originally posted by mary808: n00b question - how do I get to it from sheetmusicarchives.net? I want to help! [/b] Click on Rachmaninoff, scroll down to the files... _________________________ "If we continually try to force a child to do what he is afraid to do, he will become more timid, and will use his brains and energy, not to explore the unknown, but to find ways to avoid the pressures we put on him." (John Holt) www.pianoped.com www.youtube.com/user/UIPianoPed
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#451683 - 03/18/06 12:43 PM Re: Piano World Rachmaninoff 3 Project
lol_nl 500 Post Club Member Registered: 02/21/06 Posts: 918 Loc: Ede, Netherlands	Quote: Originally posted by mary808: n00b question - how do I get to it from sheetmusicarchives.net? I want to help! [/b] You go to www.sheetmusicarchives.net. You click on Rachmaninov (http://www.sheetmusicarchive.net/single_listing.cfm?composer_id=54). You scroll down to the 4th from under, called "Orchestral Scores". There you see: Orchestral Scores Piano Concerto No.3, Movement 1 (file 1/4) Piano Concerto No.3, Movement 1 (file 2/4) Piano Concerto No.3, Movement 1 (file 3/4) Piano Concerto No.3, Movement 1 (file 4/4) Piano Concerto No.3, Movement 2 (file 1/2) Piano Concerto No.3, Movement 2 (file 2/2) Piano Concerto No.3, Movement 3 (file 1/7) Piano Concerto No.3, Movement 3 (file 2/7) Piano Concerto No.3, Movement 3 (file 3/7) Piano Concerto No.3, Movement 3 (file 4/7) Piano Concerto No.3, Movement 3 (file 5/7) Piano Concerto No.3, Movement 3 (file 6/7) Piano Concerto No.3, Movement 3 (file 7/7) Just download them all, by clicking on them, and then on "Download". Note: You are limited only 2 downloads a day (so if you're smart you download file 3/4 and 4/4 of movenment 1 today, so you can start $\:\)$ ) _________________________ Yiteng "Music is enough for a lifetime, but a lifetime is never enough for music." -Sergei Rachmaninoff.
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#451684 - 03/18/06 01:00 PM Re: Piano World Rachmaninoff 3 Project
lol_nl 500 Post Club Member Registered: 02/21/06 Posts: 918 Loc: Ede, Netherlands	Movement 1 file 3: page 4: 302 Movement 1 file 3: page 5: 178 _________________________ Yiteng "Music is enough for a lifetime, but a lifetime is never enough for music." -Sergei Rachmaninoff.
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#451685 - 03/18/06 02:27 PM Re: Piano World Rachmaninoff 3 Project
Kreisler Yikes! 10000 Post Club Member Registered: 11/27/02 Posts: 13077 Loc: Iowa City, IA	RUNNING TOTAL SO FAR: 6,475 NOTES Keep it up!!!! _________________________ "If we continually try to force a child to do what he is afraid to do, he will become more timid, and will use his brains and energy, not to explore the unknown, but to find ways to avoid the pressures we put on him." (John Holt) www.pianoped.com www.youtube.com/user/UIPianoPed
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#451686 - 03/18/06 02:36 PM Re: Piano World Rachmaninoff 3 Project
Kreisler Yikes! 10000 Post Club Member Registered: 11/27/02 Posts: 13077 Loc: Iowa City, IA	Mvt. 2, File 1: Page 1 - 0 $\:\($ Page 2 - 0 $\:\($ Page 3 - 99 Page 4 - 299 _________________________ "If we continually try to force a child to do what he is afraid to do, he will become more timid, and will use his brains and energy, not to explore the unknown, but to find ways to avoid the pressures we put on him." (John Holt) www.pianoped.com www.youtube.com/user/UIPianoPed
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#451687 - 03/18/06 03:25 PM Re: Piano World Rachmaninoff 3 Project
CherryCoke 500 Post Club Member Registered: 07/11/02 Posts: 531	Guys, someone already did this. I'm serious. He counted all the notes in Rach 3, all the notes in every Mozart concerto. What's funny, there are more notes in Rach than all 27 Mozart Concerti COMBINED. At least, this was all told to me by a professor at my school.
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#451688 - 03/18/06 03:28 PM Re: Piano World Rachmaninoff 3 Project
lol_nl 500 Post Club Member Registered: 02/21/06 Posts: 918 Loc: Ede, Netherlands	Heey what's everyone doing? The one is counting mvt. 1, the other just starts with mvt. 2 and thrid guy starts counting page 2-3 of Mvt. 3... haha! Anyway... Mvt. 1 file 3: Page 6: 141 Page 7: 108 Page 8: 171 Page 9: 186 Page 10: 177 Page 11: 176 Together: 959 Together file 3: 2322 Done with file 3! _________________________ Yiteng "Music is enough for a lifetime, but a lifetime is never enough for music." -Sergei Rachmaninoff.
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#451689 - 03/18/06 04:17 PM Re: Piano World Rachmaninoff 3 Project
lol_nl 500 Post Club Member Registered: 02/21/06 Posts: 918 Loc: Ede, Netherlands	File 4: Quote: Originally posted by prokofiev: Quote: Originally posted by Kreisler: Hmm...let's do the one in big print! [/b] Doesn't the ossia cadenza have more notes? Be prepared for pwnage... using ossia cadenza: Movement 1 file 4 page 2: 922 Movement 1 file 4 page 3: 1588 (+/- 10 for both... I kind of lost concentration) [/b] Page 1 normal (so not with Ossia): 186 Page 1 Ossia (so using the Ossia): 405 Page 2 normal (not Ossia): 520 _________________________ Yiteng "Music is enough for a lifetime, but a lifetime is never enough for music." -Sergei Rachmaninoff.
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#451690 - 03/18/06 04:45 PM Re: Piano World Rachmaninoff 3 Project
lol_nl 500 Post Club Member Registered: 02/21/06 Posts: 918 Loc: Ede, Netherlands	Page 4: 476 Page 5: 655 (?) Page 6: 117 Page 7: 94 _________________________ Yiteng "Music is enough for a lifetime, but a lifetime is never enough for music." -Sergei Rachmaninoff.
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#451691 - 03/18/06 05:07 PM Re: Piano World Rachmaninoff 3 Project
lol_nl 500 Post Club Member Registered: 02/21/06 Posts: 918 Loc: Ede, Netherlands	Page 8: 131 Page 9: 121 Page 10: 174 Got a bit confused after long counting so I guess it's +/- max. 100 for them $\:\)$ . _________________________ Yiteng "Music is enough for a lifetime, but a lifetime is never enough for music." -Sergei Rachmaninoff.
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#451692 - 03/18/06 05:14 PM Re: Piano World Rachmaninoff 3 Project
lol_nl 500 Post Club Member Registered: 02/21/06 Posts: 918 Loc: Ede, Netherlands	A nice overview: Rachmaninov Concerto no. 3: note count[/b] Movement 1:[/b] File 1 Page 1: 38 Page 2: 94 Page 3: 83 Page 4: 135 Page 5: 146 Page 6: 139 Page 7: 252 Page 8: 227 Page 9: 228 Page 10: 233 Page 11: 80 Total of notes in File 1: 1655[/b] File 2 Page 1 = 187 Page 2 = 301 Page 3 = 407 Page 4 = 287 Page 5 = 300 Page 6 = 300 Page 7 = 122 Page 8 = 96 Page 9 = 200 Page 10 = 167 Page 11 = 258 Total of notes in File 2: 2625[/b] Total of notes in Files 1 and 2: 4280 File 3 Page 1 = 191 Page 2 = 225 Page 3 = 467 Page 4 = 302 Page 5 = 178 Page 6 = 141 Page 7 = 108 Page 8 = 171 Page 9 = 186 Page 10 = 177 Page 11 = 176 Total of notes in File 3: 2322 [/b] Total of notes in Files 1+3: 3977 Total of notes in Files 2+3: 4947 Total of notes in Files 1-3: 6602 File 4 Page 1 Standard: 186 Page 1 Ossia: 405 (?) Page 2 Standard: 520 Page 2 Ossia: 922 Page 3: 1588 Page 4: 476 Page 5: 655 (?) Page 6: 117 Page 7: 94 Page 8: 131 Page 9: 121 Page 10: 174 Total of notes in File 4(Normal version): 4062 Total of notes in File 4 (Ossia version): 4683 [/b] Total of notes in Files 1+4 (Normal version): 5717 Total of notes in Files 1+4 (Ossia version): 6338 Total of notes in Files 2+4 (Normal version): 6687 Total of notes in Files 2+4 (Ossia version): 7308 Total of notes in Files 1+2+4 (Normal version): 8342 Total of notes in Files 1+2+4 (Ossia version): 8963 Total of notes in Files 3+4 (Normal version): 6384 Total of notes in Files 3+4 (Ossia version): 7005 Total of notes in Files 1+3+4 (Normal version): 8039 Total of notes in Files 1+3+4 (Ossia version): 8660 Total of notes in Files 2+3+4 (Normal version): 9009 Total of notes in Files 2+3+4 (Ossia version): 9630 Total of notes in Files 1-4 (Normal version): 10664 Total of notes in Files 1-4 (Ossia version): 11285 Total of notes in Movement 1 (Normal version): 10664 Total of notes in Movement 1 (Ossia version): 11285 [/b] Movement 2:[/b] File 1 Page 1 - 0 Page 2 - 0 Page 3 - 99 Page 4 � 299 Total of notes in File 1: [/b] Movement 3: [/b] File 1 Page 3: 277 Page 4: 303 Total of notes in File 1:[/b] Current Score: 12363 [/b] _________________________ Yiteng "Music is enough for a lifetime, but a lifetime is never enough for music." -Sergei Rachmaninoff.
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#451693 - 03/18/06 05:17 PM Re: Piano World Rachmaninoff 3 Project
lol_nl 500 Post Club Member Registered: 02/21/06 Posts: 918 Loc: Ede, Netherlands	Ok I promiss I won't ever post here or count anymore, only updating the nice table thing $\:\)$ ! _________________________ Yiteng "Music is enough for a lifetime, but a lifetime is never enough for music." -Sergei Rachmaninoff.
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#451694 - 03/18/06 06:22 PM Re: Piano World Rachmaninoff 3 Project
mrenaud 1000 Post Club Member Registered: 01/29/02 Posts: 1294 Loc: Switzerland	Movement 2, File 1: Page 5: 453 Page 6: 231 Page 7: 179 Page 8: 461 Page 9: 285 Page 10: 342 Page 11: 408 Movement 2, File 1 done. _________________________ I have an ice cream. I cannot mail it, for it will melt.
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#451695 - 03/18/06 07:15 PM Re: Piano World Rachmaninoff 3 Project
Kreisler Yikes! 10000 Post Club Member Registered: 11/27/02 Posts: 13077 Loc: Iowa City, IA	Excellent work, everyone! GRAND TOTAL: 14,253 NOTES! _________________________ "If we continually try to force a child to do what he is afraid to do, he will become more timid, and will use his brains and energy, not to explore the unknown, but to find ways to avoid the pressures we put on him." (John Holt) www.pianoped.com www.youtube.com/user/UIPianoPed
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#451696 - 03/18/06 07:21 PM Re: Piano World Rachmaninoff 3 Project
Kreisler Yikes! 10000 Post Club Member Registered: 11/27/02 Posts: 13077 Loc: Iowa City, IA	Current needs: 2nd Movement, File 2 Almost all of third movement. First movement total: 10,664 NOTES! (no ossia) 11,285 NOTES! (using the ossia) _________________________ "If we continually try to force a child to do what he is afraid to do, he will become more timid, and will use his brains and energy, not to explore the unknown, but to find ways to avoid the pressures we put on him." (John Holt) www.pianoped.com www.youtube.com/user/UIPianoPed
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#451697 - 03/19/06 04:17 PM Re: Piano World Rachmaninoff 3 Project
lol_nl 500 Post Club Member Registered: 02/21/06 Posts: 918 Loc: Ede, Netherlands	Quote: Originally posted by Kreisler: Excellent work, everyone! GRAND TOTAL: 14,253 NOTES! [/b] I have 15120.... :rolleyes: :rolleyes: Update: Rachmaninov Concerto no. 3: note count[/b] Movement 1:[/b] File 1 Page 1: 38 Page 2: 94 Page 3: 83 Page 4: 135 Page 5: 146 Page 6: 139 Page 7: 252 Page 8: 227 Page 9: 228 Page 10: 233 Page 11: 80 Total of notes in File 1: 1655[/b] File 2 Page 1 = 187 Page 2 = 301 Page 3 = 407 Page 4 = 287 Page 5 = 300 Page 6 = 300 Page 7 = 122 Page 8 = 96 Page 9 = 200 Page 10 = 167 Page 11 = 258 Total of notes in File 2: 2625[/b] Total of notes in Files 1 and 2: 4280 File 3 Page 1 = 191 Page 2 = 225 Page 3 = 467 Page 4 = 302 Page 5 = 178 Page 6 = 141 Page 7 = 108 Page 8 = 171 Page 9 = 186 Page 10 = 177 Page 11 = 176 Total of notes in File 3: 2322 [/b] Total of notes in Files 1+3: 3977 Total of notes in Files 2+3: 4947 Total of notes in Files 1-3: 6602 File 4 Page 1 Standard: 186 Page 1 Ossia: 405 (?) Page 2 Standard: 520 Page 2 Ossia: 922 Page 3: 1588 Page 4: 476 Page 5: 655 (?) Page 6: 117 Page 7: 94 Page 8: 131 Page 9: 121 Page 10: 174 Total of notes in File 4(Normal version): 4062 Total of notes in File 4 (Ossia version): 4683 [/b] Total of notes in Files 1+4 (Normal version): 5717 Total of notes in Files 1+4 (Ossia version): 6338 Total of notes in Files 2+4 (Normal version): 6687 Total of notes in Files 2+4 (Ossia version): 7308 Total of notes in Files 1+2+4 (Normal version): 8342 Total of notes in Files 1+2+4 (Ossia version): 8963 Total of notes in Files 3+4 (Normal version): 6384 Total of notes in Files 3+4 (Ossia version): 7005 Total of notes in Files 1+3+4 (Normal version): 8039 Total of notes in Files 1+3+4 (Ossia version): 8660 Total of notes in Files 2+3+4 (Normal version): 9009 Total of notes in Files 2+3+4 (Ossia version): 9630 Total of notes in Files 1-4 (Normal version): 10664 Total of notes in Files 1-4 (Ossia version): 11285 Total of notes in Movement 1 (Normal version): 10664 Total of notes in Movement 1 (Ossia version): 11285 [/b] Movement 2:[/b] File 1 Page 1 - 0 Page 2 - 0 Page 3 - 99 Page 4 � 299 Page 5 - 453 Page 6 - 231 Page 7 - 179 Page 8 - 461 Page 9 - 285 Page 10 - 342 Page 11 - 408 Total of notes in File 1: 2757[/b] Movement 3: [/b] File 1 Page 3: 277 Page 4: 303 Total of notes in File 1:[/b] Current Score: 15120 [/b] _________________________ Yiteng "Music is enough for a lifetime, but a lifetime is never enough for music." -Sergei Rachmaninoff.
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#451698 - 03/20/06 03:25 PM Re: Piano World Rachmaninoff 3 Project
TS 500 Post Club Member Registered: 01/27/04 Posts: 869 Loc: Canada	Haha this could lead to some interesting quantitave comparison of pieces. Does the Prokofiev 2 really have more notes that the Rach 3? Maybe we should find out. $;\)$ _________________________ TS
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#451699 - 03/20/06 03:56 PM Re: Piano World Rachmaninoff 3 Project
iamcanadian 1000 Post Club Member Registered: 02/02/02 Posts: 1893 Loc: Canada	I doubt Prokofiev 2 has more, simply because it's almost 15 mins shorter. _________________________ ♪♫♪♫
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#451700 - 03/21/06 12:23 PM Re: Piano World Rachmaninoff 3 Project
lol_nl 500 Post Club Member Registered: 02/21/06 Posts: 918 Loc: Ede, Netherlands	Hey are we stopping with counting? Come on... just a little to go! _________________________ Yiteng "Music is enough for a lifetime, but a lifetime is never enough for music." -Sergei Rachmaninoff.
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#451701 - 03/21/06 12:52 PM Re: Piano World Rachmaninoff 3 Project
Kreisler Yikes! 10000 Post Club Member Registered: 11/27/02 Posts: 13077 Loc: Iowa City, IA	YES! OBEY lol_nl! KEEP COUNTING! _________________________ "If we continually try to force a child to do what he is afraid to do, he will become more timid, and will use his brains and energy, not to explore the unknown, but to find ways to avoid the pressures we put on him." (John Holt) www.pianoped.com www.youtube.com/user/UIPianoPed
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#451702 - 03/22/06 12:36 AM Re: Piano World Rachmaninoff 3 Project
Derulux 4000 Post Club Member Registered: 06/06/05 Posts: 4206 Loc: Philadelphia	A new estimate, based on current numbers, places the concerto in the neiborhood of 21,000-23,000. Any bets it's even higher than that? 70:1 odds <18,000 6:1 18,000-20,000 Even money 20,000-24,000 2:1 24,000-26,000 3:1 26,000-28,000 5:1 28,000-33,000 11:1 >33,000 $;\)$ _________________________ Every day we are afforded a new chance. The problem with life is not that you run out of chances. In the end, what you run out of are days.
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#451703 - 03/22/06 03:47 AM Re: Piano World Rachmaninoff 3 Project
geqo Full Member Registered: 06/05/05 Posts: 59 Loc: Bloemfontein	Counting notes? Yee gads and little fishes! You are actually going to count ALL the notes in the RACH 3!!! Shock, horror, gasp, etc. At first I thought "Oh my ," these people are mad... now I'm thinking "Must download Rach 3!!" Oh, and for all the other aspiring note counters out there who want to download the rach 3 from sheetmusicarchive.net but who are frustrated by the whole 2 downloads a day thing... there is hope! After you've downloaded your two files, click Tools, Internet Options, and then Delete Cookies. This will allow you to download another two. Repeat process. Yes, I know, cheating the system, evil, etc etc, but what can I say, I'm a PC guy. Anyway, I'm not going to help on this thread (at least not yet; tests, tests and more tests), but I will check back later (if I remember) to see what the grand total is. Gluck! (good luck) _________________________ $\:D$ Geqo
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#451704 - 03/24/06 01:25 AM Re: Piano World Rachmaninoff 3 Project
Jeff135 500 Post Club Member Registered: 01/09/05 Posts: 912 Loc: Oregon	Quote: Originally posted by geqo: Oh, and for all the other aspiring note counters out there who want to download the rach 3 from sheetmusicarchive.net but who are frustrated by the whole 2 downloads a day thing... there is hope! After you've downloaded your two files, click Tools, Internet Options, and then Delete Cookies. This will allow you to download another two. Repeat process. [/b] Does this also work for sites such as Rapidshare? _________________________ The clown is watching you.
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#451705 - 03/24/06 05:13 PM Re: Piano World Rachmaninoff 3 Project
lol_nl 500 Post Club Member Registered: 02/21/06 Posts: 918 Loc: Ede, Netherlands	Looks like we gave up :rolleyes: Did all the work for nothing... _________________________ Yiteng "Music is enough for a lifetime, but a lifetime is never enough for music." -Sergei Rachmaninoff.
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