2022 our 25th year online!

Welcome to the Piano World Piano Forums
Over 3 million posts about pianos, digital pianos, and all types of keyboard instruments.
Over 100,000 members from around the world.
Join the World's Largest Community of Piano Lovers (it's free)
It's Fun to Play the Piano ... Please Pass It On!

SEARCH
Piano Forums & Piano World
(ad)
Who's Online Now
61 members (anotherscott, Bellyman, brennbaer, busa, Barly, 1957, btcomm, 11 invisible), 2,007 guests, and 345 robots.
Key: Admin, Global Mod, Mod
Previous Thread
Next Thread
Print Thread
Hop To
Page 3 of 5 1 2 3 4 5
Joined: Nov 2002
Posts: 13,837
Yikes! 10000 Post Club Member
OP Offline
Yikes! 10000 Post Club Member
Joined: Nov 2002
Posts: 13,837
Mvt. 2, File 1:

Page 1 - 0 frown

Page 2 - 0 frown

Page 3 - 99

Page 4 - 299


"If we continually try to force a child to do what he is afraid to do, he will become more timid, and will use his brains and energy, not to explore the unknown, but to find ways to avoid the pressures we put on him." (John Holt)

www.pianoped.com
www.youtube.com/user/UIPianoPed
Joined: Jul 2002
Posts: 531
500 Post Club Member
Offline
500 Post Club Member
Joined: Jul 2002
Posts: 531
Guys, someone already did this. I'm serious. He counted all the notes in Rach 3, all the notes in every Mozart concerto. What's funny, there are more notes in Rach than all 27 Mozart Concerti COMBINED.

At least, this was all told to me by a professor at my school.

Joined: Feb 2006
Posts: 963
500 Post Club Member
Offline
500 Post Club Member
Joined: Feb 2006
Posts: 963
Heey what's everyone doing? The one is counting mvt. 1, the other just starts with mvt. 2 and thrid guy starts counting page 2-3 of Mvt. 3... haha!

Anyway...

Mvt. 1 file 3:

Page 6: 141
Page 7: 108
Page 8: 171
Page 9: 186
Page 10: 177
Page 11: 176
Together: 959
Together file 3: 2322

Done with file 3!


Kawai ES-110

"Music is enough for a lifetime, but a lifetime is never enough for music."
-Sergei Rachmaninoff.
Joined: Feb 2006
Posts: 963
500 Post Club Member
Offline
500 Post Club Member
Joined: Feb 2006
Posts: 963
File 4:

Quote
Originally posted by prokofiev:
Quote
Originally posted by Kreisler:
[b] Hmm...let's do the one in big print!
Doesn't the ossia cadenza have more notes?

Be prepared for pwnage... using ossia cadenza:
Movement 1 file 4 page 2: 922 :t:
Movement 1 file 4 page 3: 1588 :t: :t:
(+/- 10 for both... I kind of lost concentration) [/b]
Page 1 normal (so not with Ossia): 186
Page 1 Ossia (so using the Ossia): 405
Page 2 normal (not Ossia): 520


Kawai ES-110

"Music is enough for a lifetime, but a lifetime is never enough for music."
-Sergei Rachmaninoff.
Joined: Feb 2006
Posts: 963
500 Post Club Member
Offline
500 Post Club Member
Joined: Feb 2006
Posts: 963
Page 4: 476
Page 5: 655 (?)
Page 6: 117
Page 7: 94


Kawai ES-110

"Music is enough for a lifetime, but a lifetime is never enough for music."
-Sergei Rachmaninoff.
Joined: Feb 2006
Posts: 963
500 Post Club Member
Offline
500 Post Club Member
Joined: Feb 2006
Posts: 963
Page 8: 131
Page 9: 121
Page 10: 174

Got a bit confused after long counting so I guess it's +/- max. 100 for them smile .


Kawai ES-110

"Music is enough for a lifetime, but a lifetime is never enough for music."
-Sergei Rachmaninoff.
Joined: Feb 2006
Posts: 963
500 Post Club Member
Offline
500 Post Club Member
Joined: Feb 2006
Posts: 963
A nice overview:

Rachmaninov Concerto no. 3: note count

Movement 1:

File 1
Page 1: 38
Page 2: 94
Page 3: 83
Page 4: 135
Page 5: 146
Page 6: 139
Page 7: 252
Page 8: 227
Page 9: 228
Page 10: 233
Page 11: 80
Total of notes in File 1: 1655

File 2
Page 1 = 187
Page 2 = 301
Page 3 = 407
Page 4 = 287
Page 5 = 300
Page 6 = 300
Page 7 = 122
Page 8 = 96
Page 9 = 200
Page 10 = 167
Page 11 = 258

Total of notes in File 2: 2625
Total of notes in Files 1 and 2: 4280

File 3
Page 1 = 191
Page 2 = 225
Page 3 = 467
Page 4 = 302
Page 5 = 178
Page 6 = 141
Page 7 = 108
Page 8 = 171
Page 9 = 186
Page 10 = 177
Page 11 = 176

Total of notes in File 3: 2322
Total of notes in Files 1+3: 3977
Total of notes in Files 2+3: 4947
Total of notes in Files 1-3: 6602


File 4
Page 1 Standard: 186
Page 1 Ossia: 405 (?)
Page 2 Standard: 520
Page 2 Ossia: 922
Page 3: 1588
Page 4: 476
Page 5: 655 (?)
Page 6: 117
Page 7: 94
Page 8: 131
Page 9: 121
Page 10: 174

Total of notes in File 4(Normal version): 4062
Total of notes in File 4 (Ossia version): 4683


Total of notes in Files 1+4 (Normal version): 5717
Total of notes in Files 1+4 (Ossia version): 6338
Total of notes in Files 2+4 (Normal version): 6687
Total of notes in Files 2+4 (Ossia version): 7308
Total of notes in Files 1+2+4 (Normal version): 8342
Total of notes in Files 1+2+4 (Ossia version): 8963
Total of notes in Files 3+4 (Normal version): 6384
Total of notes in Files 3+4 (Ossia version): 7005
Total of notes in Files 1+3+4 (Normal version): 8039
Total of notes in Files 1+3+4 (Ossia version): 8660
Total of notes in Files 2+3+4 (Normal version): 9009
Total of notes in Files 2+3+4 (Ossia version): 9630
Total of notes in Files 1-4 (Normal version): 10664
Total of notes in Files 1-4 (Ossia version): 11285

Total of notes in Movement 1 (Normal version): 10664
Total of notes in Movement 1 (Ossia version): 11285


Movement 2:

File 1
Page 1 - 0
Page 2 - 0
Page 3 - 99
Page 4 – 299

Total of notes in File 1:

Movement 3:

File 1
Page 3: 277
Page 4: 303

Total of notes in File 1:

Current Score: 12363


Kawai ES-110

"Music is enough for a lifetime, but a lifetime is never enough for music."
-Sergei Rachmaninoff.
Joined: Feb 2006
Posts: 963
500 Post Club Member
Offline
500 Post Club Member
Joined: Feb 2006
Posts: 963
Ok I promiss I won't ever post here or count anymore, only updating the nice table thing smile !


Kawai ES-110

"Music is enough for a lifetime, but a lifetime is never enough for music."
-Sergei Rachmaninoff.
Joined: Jan 2002
Posts: 1,338
M
1000 Post Club Member
Offline
1000 Post Club Member
M
Joined: Jan 2002
Posts: 1,338
Movement 2, File 1:

Page 5: 453
Page 6: 231
Page 7: 179
Page 8: 461
Page 9: 285
Page 10: 342
Page 11: 408

Movement 2, File 1 done.


I have an ice cream. I cannot mail it, for it will melt.
Joined: Nov 2002
Posts: 13,837
Yikes! 10000 Post Club Member
OP Offline
Yikes! 10000 Post Club Member
Joined: Nov 2002
Posts: 13,837
Excellent work, everyone!

GRAND TOTAL:
14,253 NOTES!


"If we continually try to force a child to do what he is afraid to do, he will become more timid, and will use his brains and energy, not to explore the unknown, but to find ways to avoid the pressures we put on him." (John Holt)

www.pianoped.com
www.youtube.com/user/UIPianoPed
Joined: Nov 2002
Posts: 13,837
Yikes! 10000 Post Club Member
OP Offline
Yikes! 10000 Post Club Member
Joined: Nov 2002
Posts: 13,837
Current needs:

2nd Movement, File 2

Almost all of third movement.

First movement total:

10,664 NOTES! (no ossia)
11,285 NOTES! (using the ossia)


"If we continually try to force a child to do what he is afraid to do, he will become more timid, and will use his brains and energy, not to explore the unknown, but to find ways to avoid the pressures we put on him." (John Holt)

www.pianoped.com
www.youtube.com/user/UIPianoPed
Joined: Feb 2006
Posts: 963
500 Post Club Member
Offline
500 Post Club Member
Joined: Feb 2006
Posts: 963
Quote
Originally posted by Kreisler:
Excellent work, everyone!

GRAND TOTAL:
14,253 NOTES!
I have 15120.... :rolleyes: :rolleyes:


Update:

Rachmaninov Concerto no. 3: note count

Movement 1:

File 1
Page 1: 38
Page 2: 94
Page 3: 83
Page 4: 135
Page 5: 146
Page 6: 139
Page 7: 252
Page 8: 227
Page 9: 228
Page 10: 233
Page 11: 80
Total of notes in File 1: 1655

File 2
Page 1 = 187
Page 2 = 301
Page 3 = 407
Page 4 = 287
Page 5 = 300
Page 6 = 300
Page 7 = 122
Page 8 = 96
Page 9 = 200
Page 10 = 167
Page 11 = 258

Total of notes in File 2: 2625
Total of notes in Files 1 and 2: 4280

File 3
Page 1 = 191
Page 2 = 225
Page 3 = 467
Page 4 = 302
Page 5 = 178
Page 6 = 141
Page 7 = 108
Page 8 = 171
Page 9 = 186
Page 10 = 177
Page 11 = 176

Total of notes in File 3: 2322
Total of notes in Files 1+3: 3977
Total of notes in Files 2+3: 4947
Total of notes in Files 1-3: 6602


File 4
Page 1 Standard: 186
Page 1 Ossia: 405 (?)
Page 2 Standard: 520
Page 2 Ossia: 922
Page 3: 1588
Page 4: 476
Page 5: 655 (?)
Page 6: 117
Page 7: 94
Page 8: 131
Page 9: 121
Page 10: 174

Total of notes in File 4(Normal version): 4062
Total of notes in File 4 (Ossia version): 4683


Total of notes in Files 1+4 (Normal version): 5717
Total of notes in Files 1+4 (Ossia version): 6338
Total of notes in Files 2+4 (Normal version): 6687
Total of notes in Files 2+4 (Ossia version): 7308
Total of notes in Files 1+2+4 (Normal version): 8342
Total of notes in Files 1+2+4 (Ossia version): 8963
Total of notes in Files 3+4 (Normal version): 6384
Total of notes in Files 3+4 (Ossia version): 7005
Total of notes in Files 1+3+4 (Normal version): 8039
Total of notes in Files 1+3+4 (Ossia version): 8660
Total of notes in Files 2+3+4 (Normal version): 9009
Total of notes in Files 2+3+4 (Ossia version): 9630
Total of notes in Files 1-4 (Normal version): 10664
Total of notes in Files 1-4 (Ossia version): 11285

Total of notes in Movement 1 (Normal version): 10664
Total of notes in Movement 1 (Ossia version): 11285


Movement 2:

File 1
Page 1 - 0
Page 2 - 0
Page 3 - 99
Page 4 – 299
Page 5 - 453
Page 6 - 231
Page 7 - 179
Page 8 - 461
Page 9 - 285
Page 10 - 342
Page 11 - 408

Total of notes in File 1: 2757

Movement 3:

File 1
Page 3: 277
Page 4: 303

Total of notes in File 1:

Current Score: 15120


Kawai ES-110

"Music is enough for a lifetime, but a lifetime is never enough for music."
-Sergei Rachmaninoff.
Joined: Jan 2004
Posts: 869
T
TS Offline
500 Post Club Member
Offline
500 Post Club Member
T
Joined: Jan 2004
Posts: 869
Haha this could lead to some interesting quantitave comparison of pieces. Does the Prokofiev 2 really have more notes that the Rach 3? Maybe we should find out. wink

Joined: Feb 2002
Posts: 1,893
I
1000 Post Club Member
Offline
1000 Post Club Member
I
Joined: Feb 2002
Posts: 1,893
I doubt Prokofiev 2 has more, simply because it's almost 15 mins shorter.

Joined: Feb 2006
Posts: 963
500 Post Club Member
Offline
500 Post Club Member
Joined: Feb 2006
Posts: 963
Hey are we stopping with counting? Come on... just a little to go!


Kawai ES-110

"Music is enough for a lifetime, but a lifetime is never enough for music."
-Sergei Rachmaninoff.
Joined: Nov 2002
Posts: 13,837
Yikes! 10000 Post Club Member
OP Offline
Yikes! 10000 Post Club Member
Joined: Nov 2002
Posts: 13,837
YES! OBEY lol_nl! KEEP COUNTING!


"If we continually try to force a child to do what he is afraid to do, he will become more timid, and will use his brains and energy, not to explore the unknown, but to find ways to avoid the pressures we put on him." (John Holt)

www.pianoped.com
www.youtube.com/user/UIPianoPed
Joined: Jun 2005
Posts: 5,446
D
5000 Post Club Member
Offline
5000 Post Club Member
D
Joined: Jun 2005
Posts: 5,446
A new estimate, based on current numbers, places the concerto in the neiborhood of 21,000-23,000. Any bets it's even higher than that?

70:1 odds <18,000
6:1 18,000-20,000
Even money 20,000-24,000
2:1 24,000-26,000
3:1 26,000-28,000
5:1 28,000-33,000
11:1 >33,000

wink


Every day we are afforded a new chance. The problem with life is not that you run out of chances. In the end, what you run out of are days.
Joined: Jun 2005
Posts: 59
Full Member
Offline
Full Member
Joined: Jun 2005
Posts: 59
Counting notes? Yee gads and little fishes! You are actually going to count ALL the notes in the RACH 3!!! Shock, horror, gasp, etc.

At first I thought "Oh my <place deity here>," these people are mad... now I'm thinking "Must download Rach 3!!"

Oh, and for all the other aspiring note counters out there who want to download the rach 3 from sheetmusicarchive.net but who are frustrated by the whole 2 downloads a day thing... there is hope! After you've downloaded your two files, click Tools, Internet Options, and then Delete Cookies. This will allow you to download another two. Repeat process.

Yes, I know, cheating the system, evil, etc etc, but what can I say, I'm a PC guy.

Anyway, I'm not going to help on this thread (at least not yet; tests, tests and more tests), but I will check back later (if I remember) to see what the grand total is.

Gluck! (good luck)


laugh Geqo
Joined: Jan 2005
Posts: 912
500 Post Club Member
Offline
500 Post Club Member
Joined: Jan 2005
Posts: 912
Quote
Originally posted by geqo:

Oh, and for all the other aspiring note counters out there who want to download the rach 3 from sheetmusicarchive.net but who are frustrated by the whole 2 downloads a day thing... there is hope! After you've downloaded your two files, click Tools, Internet Options, and then Delete Cookies. This will allow you to download another two. Repeat process.
Does this also work for sites such as Rapidshare?


The clown is watching you.
Joined: Feb 2006
Posts: 963
500 Post Club Member
Offline
500 Post Club Member
Joined: Feb 2006
Posts: 963
Looks like we gave up :rolleyes:
Did all the work for nothing...


Kawai ES-110

"Music is enough for a lifetime, but a lifetime is never enough for music."
-Sergei Rachmaninoff.
Page 3 of 5 1 2 3 4 5

Moderated by  Brendan, platuser 

Link Copied to Clipboard
What's Hot!!
Piano World Has Been Sold!
--------------------
Forums RULES, Terms of Service & HELP
(updated 06/06/2022)
---------------------
Posting Pictures on the Forums
(ad)
(ad)
New Topics - Multiple Forums
Very Cheap Piano?
by Tweedpipe - 04/16/24 10:13 AM
Country style lessons
by Stephen_James - 04/16/24 06:04 AM
How Much to Sell For?
by TexasMom1 - 04/15/24 10:23 PM
Song lyrics have become simpler and more repetitive
by FrankCox - 04/15/24 07:42 PM
New bass strings sound tubby
by Emery Wang - 04/15/24 06:54 PM
Forum Statistics
Forums43
Topics223,386
Posts3,349,204
Members111,631
Most Online15,252
Mar 21st, 2010

Our Piano Related Classified Ads
| Dealers | Tuners | Lessons | Movers | Restorations |

Advertise on Piano World
| Piano World | PianoSupplies.com | Advertise on Piano World |
| |Contact | Privacy | Legal | About Us | Site Map


Copyright © VerticalScope Inc. All Rights Reserved.
No part of this site may be reproduced without prior written permission
Powered by UBB.threads™ PHP Forum Software 7.7.5
When you purchase through links on our site, we may earn an affiliate commission, which supports our community.