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I think we can all remember a time when we were stumped by that dreaded x!

Oh you're learning that piece. Lol I didn't really read your post thoroughly. I studied that piece a while ago, and since then it's been a favorite in my repretoire. I love the singing right hand melody, it is so sad and emotional. This piece was introduced to me by the movie "The Pianist" and I fell in love with it. Very good piece, I hope you enjoy it

I first saw the x in the beginining of Chopin's C-Sharp minor Waltz (No. 7) three or four years ago. My brother and I fought so much over that one note!

Now, I look back on those ignorant days and just laugh.


Gordonf238, someday you will, too.

Is it not: F#, E, C#, A

Or am I just dreaming? lol, I'm not very good at reading music either, so I may be wrong, but this is what I would have played.

Takeshi_Jay, it is F##, E C#, A. (The 'x' means '##')

sometimes instead of double-flat (ie Bbb), you'll see the dimished (a tiny circle), which is the same thing - one whole tone lower.

Um...no.

The little circle is used in chord symbols, not on the notes themselves.

and '+' for augmented. I can understand the plus sign - afterall, augmented just means +1. But why a circle for diminished? Why not a minus sign?

French:
• augmenter = to increase
• deminuer = to decrease

i, too suck at reading sheet music. i play the real thing to make sure that i'm not off key, even though it's in my head. i didn't realize that i was playing the wrong notes for Beethoven's 'Moonlight Sonata' op.27, 2nd movement in C# Minor until i ran back a movie of someone playing the song, as good as [i thought] it sounded.
then when i found i couldn't play past the first measure, then i started to get frustrated and wonder what i did wrong. then i found out last night. it's no wonder, b/c Minor chords are harder to play in than Major chords. that's why Major chords are used a lot more often. [hence the real meaning of the words 'Major' and 'Minor'.]

... because in some systems + means major and - means minor:

G+ = G major
G- = G minor

By the way, it's diminuer and not deminuer .

Regards,

Heh, I was debating that in my mind. I wrote diminuer, but then changed it to deminuer... (my French teacher would throw a fit if she saw that )

Oh, who cares about French teachers!

Kreisler,

I can't help it, I need to ask a question here. Isn't the cord you talk about A-C#-E-G(F##) if it was written without inversion? Doesn't that also make it enharmonically an A7th cord which resolves strongly to D major? I hear the resolution the G# major, just not as strong as to D. Is it the double #F that makes the difference?

Sorry, one more lesson.

Can you explain the difference between a German 6th and a Neapolitan 6th?