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#464679 - 12/15/04 10:18 PM Re: Rachmaninoff 3, yes im going there
Frungy Full Member Registered: 05/24/04 Posts: 283 Loc: Tokyo, Japan	Beethoven 3rd > Beethoven 4th
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#464680 - 12/15/04 11:13 PM Re: Rachmaninoff 3, yes im going there
iamcanadian 1000 Post Club Member Registered: 02/02/02 Posts: 1893 Loc: Canada	Quote: Originally posted by chopinistic: "The Rachmaninoff 3rd concerto is no where near the artistic heights of the Beethoven 4th" -Horacio Guttierez [/b] I'll agree with that! Quote: Originally posted by Frungy: Beethoven 3rd > Beethoven 4th [/b] I respectfully disagree. In my opinion, the Beethoven 4th concerto is the most perfect concerto ever written. _________________________ ♪♫♪♫
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#464681 - 12/16/04 08:24 AM Re: Rachmaninoff 3, yes im going there
�anor 1000 Post Club Member Registered: 08/07/02 Posts: 1232 Loc: Santiago, Chile	they are NO MATCH FOR MOZART's _________________________ ss ao lr ue dt on si .u dq ar no on ra qd u. is no td eu rl oa ss
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#464682 - 12/16/04 08:39 AM Re: Rachmaninoff 3, yes im going there
Beaver Full Member Registered: 02/09/04 Posts: 257	Quote: Originally posted by iamcanadian: In my opinion, the Beethoven 4th concerto is the most perfect concerto ever written. [/b] I think the 5th is more "perfect" than the 4th, but I don't necessarily prefer it. Musically, they are miles apart, yet both at the summit of concerto repetoire IMO.
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#464683 - 12/16/04 09:17 AM Re: Rachmaninoff 3, yes im going there
Phlebas 4000 Post Club Member Registered: 01/02/03 Posts: 4654 Loc: New York City	Quote: Originally posted by The 89th Key: I think it is the best and hardest piece in the world. [/b] "Best" is of course subjective, so I'll let you get away with that. Why do you say Rach3 - which lots of students play at conservatories - is the most difficult? Why specifically do you say it's more difficult than Prokofiev 2, Barber 2, Rachmaninov 1st sonata, Brahms 2, Boulez second sonata, Ives "Concord Sonata," or for that matter Xenakis' "Herma," or Sorjabi's Opus Clavicembalisticum?
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#464684 - 12/16/04 07:54 PM Re: Rachmaninoff 3, yes im going there
TS 500 Post Club Member Registered: 01/27/04 Posts: 869 Loc: Canada	BTW, is it rachmaninOFF or rachmaninOV??? Itis both, it's just the crazy russian language. From my knowledge (which is very sparse) one is formal and one is not, im not sure whihch though. _________________________ TS
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#464685 - 12/16/04 08:08 PM Re: Rachmaninoff 3, yes im going there
kluurs 3000 Post Club Member Registered: 05/24/02 Posts: 3736 Loc: Chicago	The Henselt is more challenging.... K
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#464686 - 12/16/04 09:16 PM Re: Rachmaninoff 3, yes im going there
chopinistic Full Member Registered: 03/12/04 Posts: 55	wow, someone knows henselt
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#464687 - 12/16/04 09:57 PM Re: Rachmaninoff 3, yes im going there
iamcanadian 1000 Post Club Member Registered: 02/02/02 Posts: 1893 Loc: Canada	If you want to hear a GREAT recording of the Henselt concerto, then check this one out: Link It is a shame that Raymond Lewenthal didn't record more. _________________________ ♪♫♪♫
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#464688 - 12/16/04 10:07 PM Re: Rachmaninoff 3, yes im going there
valarking 2000 Post Club Member Registered: 09/17/02 Posts: 2331 Loc: Dallas	Quote: Originally posted by TS: BTW, is it rachmaninOFF or rachmaninOV??? Itis both, it's just the crazy russian language. From my knowledge (which is very sparse) one is formal and one is not, im not sure whihch though. [/b] It's just a different translation of cyrillic characters.
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#464689 - 12/16/04 10:22 PM Re: Rachmaninoff 3, yes im going there
iamcanadian 1000 Post Club Member Registered: 02/02/02 Posts: 1893 Loc: Canada	I use Rachmaninoff. Also, Rachmaninoff is written on his tombstone. _________________________ ♪♫♪♫
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#464690 - 12/17/04 04:26 AM Re: Rachmaninoff 3, yes im going there
Beaver Full Member Registered: 02/09/04 Posts: 257	Rachmaninov is closer to the correct pronunciation in modern day English. However, the man himself used Rachmaninoff, and personally I think it looks better with a double "f".
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#464691 - 12/21/04 05:07 PM Re: Rachmaninoff 3, yes im going there
e60m5 Full Member Registered: 04/13/03 Posts: 257 Loc: London, United Kingdom	Sorry... somebody had to... _________________________ ---
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#464692 - 12/21/04 05:10 PM Re: Rachmaninoff 3, yes im going there
e60m5 Full Member Registered: 04/13/03 Posts: 257 Loc: London, United Kingdom	I hereby apologise to the honourable members of this forum for the travesty above, but I couldn't resist... _________________________ ---
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#464693 - 12/21/04 06:01 PM Re: Rachmaninoff 3, yes im going there
�anor 1000 Post Club Member Registered: 08/07/02 Posts: 1232 Loc: Santiago, Chile	Nice photoshoping _________________________ ss ao lr ue dt on si .u dq ar no on ra qd u. is no td eu rl oa ss
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