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#469724 - 03/25/05 03:06 PM
Mozart Concertos
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Registered: 02/12/05
Posts: 233
Loc: Wisconsin
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Which of the following would you say would be the best to learn as a beginning concerto? It would be initially the first movement, then possibly the entire peice.
Mozart:
No.9 Op.271 (Eb major)
No.12 K.414 (A major)
No. 17 K.453 (G major)
No.19 K.459 (F major)
No.20 K.466 (D minor)
No.21 K.467 (C major)
No.23 K.488 (A major)
Thank you
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#469725 - 03/25/05 03:08 PM
Re: Mozart Concertos
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Registered: 01/01/05
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My first concerto movement was the 2nd movement of Mozart No. 21.
I didn't learn the other movements, though - I went on to the 2nd movement of Beethoven's 5th, some modern student concertos, and now the 1st movement of the Grieg.
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#469727 - 03/25/05 04:37 PM
Re: Mozart Concertos
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Registered: 01/27/04
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Loc: Hart Island, NYC
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Originally posted by DameMyra:  No. 12 is the least technically difficult of those listed. It was my second concerto, the first being the Haydn D major. It's a wonderful beginner concerto. The first movement has some brilliant passages that lay very easily under the hand. Mozart wrote cadenzas for this concerto and they are very effective. Use them. The second movement is quite lovely and actually takes the main theme from the first movement and uses it as it's second subject. (Who says Mozart's boring and predictable!!!) The last movement is a lively Rondo. [/b] Excellent choice. My daughter's learning it right now. She started out with the Rondo--one of the most infectious pieces of music ever written and went to the Andante at the beginning--fairly easy. She's in the middle of the middle as we speak. She really enjoys the piece. The beauty of the music is a real encouragement for her.
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#469728 - 03/25/05 04:46 PM
Re: Mozart Concertos
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Registered: 11/27/02
Posts: 12483
Loc: Iowa City, IA
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I'll also vote for 414.
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#469729 - 03/25/05 04:54 PM
Re: Mozart Concertos
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Registered: 02/12/05
Posts: 233
Loc: Wisconsin
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Are they any websites that post excerpts of the piano part that I could look at? I'd like to see a little of it before I buy it
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#469730 - 03/25/05 06:30 PM
Re: Mozart Concertos
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Registered: 12/21/04
Posts: 1537
Loc: South Jersey
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The entire score is available on a Russian site: http://www.piano.ru/mozart.html Now even though the entire sight is in Russian, if you place the cursor over the various names you will notice the link on the bottom of your browser is actually in English. Just curse down till you find: http://www.piano.ru/scores/mozart/moz-con/moz-con-12.pdf Right click and you can download the PDF. Now, please just use this PDF to review it and then but the score. It's not terribly expensive. The Schirmer Edition (which is perfectly fine) is like $12.00 at sheetmusicplus.com.
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#469731 - 03/25/05 08:59 PM
Re: Mozart Concertos
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#469732 - 03/25/05 09:05 PM
Re: Mozart Concertos
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Registered: 02/12/05
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Loc: Wisconsin
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I wouldn't worry about me not buying the score either. I can't function with loose sheets of music. Plus only my dad understands russian ^_^
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#469733 - 03/25/05 09:15 PM
Re: Mozart Concertos
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Registered: 01/14/05
Posts: 374
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i have a question...ive never played a concerto and ive always wondered when u guys do one...do u just learn the piano and just have tons of pauses when u play it for the parts without piano or what?...i guess ive never really understood...
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#469734 - 03/25/05 09:21 PM
Re: Mozart Concertos
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Registered: 02/12/05
Posts: 233
Loc: Wisconsin
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IF there's no orchestra available when you perform it the performer will either find an arrangment of it for solo piano or hire an accompaniest to play the orchestra part on a second piano.
I just looked over the first movement. Doesn't look horrid (I was expecting something like Tchaikovsky, lord what a relief) The biggest trouble would probably be the cadenza.
Are there any specific recordings anyone would recommend?
Also, until I can purchase the music, are there any 'primer' peices that I would benefit from learning before I tackle it?
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#469735 - 03/26/05 02:46 AM
Re: Mozart Concertos
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Registered: 10/05/02
Posts: 2846
Loc: RHUL
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Originally posted by pianojerome: My first concerto movement was the 2nd movement of Mozart No. 21.[/b] I'm working on that Concerto now, though after learning the Grieg 1st and 2nd movements and also tinkering with Mendelsohn G minor.
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#469736 - 03/26/05 06:52 AM
Re: Mozart Concertos
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Registered: 10/10/03
Posts: 1192
Loc: Scotland
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This is incredibly funny, I'm in the middle of learning the Concerto in A No.12 right now, I'm starting with the last movement though and I'm loving it. I wonder if the school string orchestra would play with me 
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#469737 - 03/26/05 01:04 PM
Re: Mozart Concertos
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Registered: 02/13/05
Posts: 237
Loc: Chicago, IL
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Can't go wrong with movement 1 of K 466
It is absolutely beautiful and quite fun.
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